Missy,,M, no thanks (6/5/2009 3:29:18 AM)

sounds like the makin of a movie.

Basil, Tulsa (6/5/2009 6:35:21 AM)

I hope we see some changes in Islam world-wide, because until the nature of Islam changes to respect minorities, women's rights, freedom of thought and expression, freedom for minority relgions to assemble, departure from fascist tendencies of supremecy and subjugation of non-Muslims in their lands, human rights violations and inhumane punishments for crime, etc., it will never be trusted by the majority of people.

Basil, Tulsa (6/5/2009 6:51:17 AM)

See how it doesn't really make sense when you transpose Christianity for Islam, Jim. It makes the statement ridiculous. Thanks for illustrating the difference effectively.
Being part of the Christian "east" I am aware that many things labelled as Christian here in the U.S. are huge departure from the original faith, but even those who twist the Christian scriptures, are hypocritical, and judgemental, in opposition to Christ's commandments, are more peaceful than what we see in these Muslim nations. Read thereligionofpeace dot com.

ol feller, Small Town (6/5/2009 7:40:14 AM)

"As President Obama pointed out in his Cairo speech, it was Islamic scholars who continued to make scientific progress while European Christianity was mucking around in the Dark Ages."
Purdy

That was then Jim this is now. The Muslim religion destroyed the medical advancements they made in the "past" and now the majority of Muslim nations are no better than most third world countries. A few years back, one of the wealthiest of Arabs flew his son to Oklahoma City for open heart surgery. Why? His answer was, "Because he could not get the quality of surgery in his own country he could get here".

Basil, Tulsa (6/5/2009 8:28:26 AM)

Anyone of any race can become an excellent doctor or scientist. Those in 3rd world nations (which includes every Muslim nation in existence) may have more motivation to lift themselves out of poverty, so they tend to be more diligent than many Americans in their studies, but race has nothing to do with their success. It's their effort which pays off. It's demeaning to say they're successful because of their ethnicity--it robs them of the praise they should receive for their hard work.

ol feller, Small Town (6/5/2009 8:31:48 AM)

ol feller, what world are you in? Jim Purdy
The real one!
Why don't you try reading before you start your bashing. I said:
"the majority of Muslim nations are no better than most third world countries". That was medically speaking and you know it. It's also the truth. I made no references to the Muslims living in America. You might try finding out the reason many Muslims came to the USA before you spout your liberal nonsense. Most came here to escape the religious oppression in their home countries, and for freedom. Also, you should walk a mile in the shoes of those oppressed by religion in other countries before you bash the Christians in America.

ol feller, Small Town (6/5/2009 9:03:18 AM)

Basil,
You seem to understand the point I made, that most, if not all Muslim Nations medical care is third world. Yet at one time in history they had the best medical schools and treatment in the world. What could they have accomplished if they had not "lost their way"?
Short personal story, a few years ago I had an upper respratory infection and went to the local am pm clinic as my personal Doc was swamped with patients. I was examined by a P.A., a young lady of middle eastern decent. She was as competent as any MD I ever saw. She perscribed the proper medication, insisted I take all of the meds, and told me about the side effects they might have. She answered all my questions in a professional manner. I wish all medical people were as competent as she. Here I must admit that she was absolutely georgeous. If this makes me a "sexist" I don't care. Beauty and Brains with professionalism, I hope all forign medical pros are like that. Thank you.

Proud Muslim, Tulsa: Coolest place in the world (almost) (6/5/2009 11:13:14 AM)

Excellent speech, Mr. President.

52favoriteteacher, Washburn--used to be Broken Arrow (6/5/2009 12:13:38 PM)

Proud Muslim,

I gave him 5/6 stars

Not bad for a rookie prez

The continual religious oppression by the Muslim

males has to stop. This happens in my Christain

world too though.

Women it is 2009 and time to stand up.

A movement to get all our hearts in order would

be the best action.

Love

Peace

Happiness

Lord help us all


greatest possible

52favoriteteacher, Washburn--used to be Broken Arrow (6/5/2009 12:16:19 PM)

TW

still want that edit feature

greatest possible outcome--Love one another

rockfan, broken arrow (6/5/2009 12:45:43 PM)

Agrees with Basil in his 6:35 posting.

hardball, (6/5/2009 2:21:31 PM)

basil, jim: I think your both correct but perpetuating the continuous religeous Tower of Babel "god-speak".

vrcTulsa, Okmulgee (6/5/2009 3:21:11 PM)

I am glad to see Obama is trying to bridge the gap that the Bush Administration created between American's and Muslims. Although they are not of my personal religious persuasion, they still deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. Its also encouraging to see them embracing America and Americans again!

Royce, Tulsa (6/5/2009 6:12:50 PM)

Of course they do. Obama gave an official legitimacy to a religion which promises to provide its followers with 70 virgins if they would fly an airplane into an American building.

I knew that when Obama was denying he is a Muslim during the campaign that it was just another false claim by another false politician.

Somehow this Islam stuff is supposed to be the equivalent of our great Judeo Christian faith.

I don't see it myself.

Mr. Brown, Fallon, Nevada (6/8/2009 9:23:57 AM)

Of course the Cairo speech was a hit with it's intended audience. They weren't called out for the things that they do.
Additionally, vrcTulsa, the "gap" with the Muslim world was there before Bush.
If fighting back is all it takes to widen a gap with an atagonist, then so be it.

Cov, Okmulgee (6/8/2009 2:10:55 PM)

What types of problems are we fighting back? Are you saying that the muslim world has a PR problem?

If the new prez says America is no longer a Christian nation but is actually the largest muslim nation then who are we to question?

TulsaMuslimah, tulsa (6/9/2009 5:51:09 PM)

Hey Teacher! as a rule, muslim males are not "opressive". Any man, or woman can become opressive when they lack understanding of theire faith( whatever it may be) and theire role in society.

Royce...I dont know where you get your information man. oh and by the way if you are going to use made up words that refer to muslims, atleast get the terms right! In other posts you've talked about "jihader"...that's buba speak (lol) the correct made up word is "jihadist"