justiceawaits, Claremore (6/20/2009 7:30:07 AM)

Lift the tobbaco ban in the prisons.
You have a whole lot of nonviolent offenders doing extra time for violating the tobbaco policy.
The ban drove all of the nonsmokers out of the smoking areas and into the dorms where the second hand smoke is now ten times as bad as it used to be.
There is just as much tobbaco getting into the prisons as there used to be,only now the inmates with connections are profitting instead of the canteen.
The state is losing money and bedspace that could be being used to lock up violent offenders.
The DOC is not going to tell You this because they want increased funding and job security.

MarkB, Oklahoma City (6/20/2009 7:40:37 AM)

Justice, this board has nothing to do with the prisons, this is the Juvenile board

scooter2, (6/20/2009 9:19:15 AM)

Violence has risen highly among the youth of this country..Everyday it's a young person committing a violent crime. What we need is a revival among our young people. Only Jesus can change them permanently. We have to pray for the youth of this country that God will turn them around. It is sad to see them destroying each other and their families..

scooter2, (6/20/2009 9:28:29 AM)

Hopefully after the investigation, they find out he didn't do it. Just because he apologized because he thought she woke the neighbors is poor evidence he did this.. The mother who was dating him should have seen signs as he interacted with her child.. But just because someone is Nice to you doesn't mean they're nice to everyone..

scooter2, (6/20/2009 9:29:33 AM)

oops second comment on wrong page computer mistake.

Graychin, Eucha (6/20/2009 9:33:45 AM)

Justiceawaits makes some good points.

Private prisons are evil. They lobby legislators to lock up more people, for longer terms. No one should have a financial incentive to lock up MORE people.

Private JUVENILE prisons? Read about this case: "Hundreds of Pennsylvania juvenile convictions reversed over judge who took millions in bribes"

cleveland DOT com/nation/index.ssf/2009/03/hundreds_of_pennsylvania_juven.html

blueeyecherokee, (6/20/2009 7:10:31 PM)

OJA has money earmarked to renovate Rader so why isn't that money being used for this purpose? Is it better to shut the doors on the youth who receive treatment or is it better to warehouse them in a privately run institution where they receive none? It is always about the cost and never about the person and in this case the kids who have always had the doors shut on them. I say don't close the doors to the Rader Center but open it wider for those in need to come in.

cowgirlluvshercat, (6/22/2009 8:42:47 PM)

it puzzles me that in the information age we live in that so much gets lost and we are only told what others want us to know..... Rader has a budget thats almost doubles the other centers as well as a fifty (50) year YOUNGER facility and they can not manage. The facility in Tecumseh was built in the early 20's and these building are still used today! yes we as a state and country have more violent youth. As for the assaults on state employees, the problems start when we have more restrictions for the staff that are being assaulted than for the juveniles. When a juvenile assaults an employee the are given a hearing and if found to be guilty of assault they get to write a letter or lose a small privilage. The incident is reported to that counties DA but rarely are any charges filed! If an employee uses foul language while talking to a juvenile they are potentially fired from state employment!!!!These are but a very few of the REAL things that take place. These the kinds of policies that are handed down from the pencil pushers who work in the state office, who MANY MANY years ago worked a facility, however the facilities and youth are not the same today as they were then. In our society today if you give a person an inch they WILL take a mile! The youth of today are smarter and more violent due to the environments they come from. I do not advocate for abusing any juvenile, but i would be willing to bet you my pay having a juvenile threaten your life, assault you numerous times or throw urine or feces on you, and you would be screaming to anyone who would listen that you can not give the young people you are charged with helping and holding accountable for their actions, more control and boundries than the employees!!!!! Building a PRIVATE facility would only house the juveniles and it might save the state money on paper but how much will it cost the state in unemployement, early retirements, and unused leave pay-outs? it again bet you i will be MUCH MUCH more!