Tony G, Tulsa (9/26/2009 5:45:44 AM)

I understand where he came from, as a child, I had Catholicism shoved down my throat, in my 20's, I learned about the alterations in the Bible, its re-editing in 320 AD, and the kicker for me is.
Christmas was a LIE. They have no clue when Jesus was born, so they made up a day to compete with pagan rituals during the winter solstice.

Centrist, the burbs (9/26/2009 6:12:32 AM)

I can't imagine what it's like not to believe in God. I think I would lose hope.

Tony G, Tulsa (9/26/2009 6:17:01 AM)

I didn't stop believing in GOD!
I gave up believing other's version of God, and started looking for his truth in my own life.
works well for me.
A lady at an AA meeting said it best.
" I had a whole in my soul, and God filled it "

gadfly, Broken Arrow (9/26/2009 8:50:30 AM)

Centrist: W/o god, there is no hope -- hope for what?

Tony G -- "God filled the hole in my soul?"

These are mental exercises -- mental placebos for individuals who were not socialized to be independent educated adults. One can "hope" for things in this life -- and enjoy actually trying to fulfill such a hope.

Hoping for something that "might" happen, after one dies, is an unfortunate way to spend one's life. And people "hoping" for something after death would be far bette roff studying Buddhism.

A "hole in one's soul" -- there is no soul -- unless soul is being used as a metaphore for the self.

Then any such "soul" should be filled with things that exist -- not delusions.

nucleardad, Tulsa (9/26/2009 9:29:20 AM)

Now wait a minute.....I always heard that athiest's are constantly harassed and ridiculed by Christians in America. How they have to deal with persecution, hate, descrimination and intolerance due to their un-belief. But this guy says:
"I came here for freedom," he said. "I love this country more than anyplace else. I love Tulsa Of all the people I've met, Americans are the best people. They're really nice people."
Apparently this fellow hasn't developed that chip on his shoulder and persecution complex that American athiests all have.

opinion, tulsa (9/26/2009 10:45:18 AM)

Well some one can’t imagine how some one do not believe in delusion some one always question and need answer with evidence ,no moor silly story some one fined the real hope, hope in life ,love ,better life after became non believer , more confident, no moor believe in something ,no one has answer no one in the earth has one single information about god or one answer where is god, how he looks like ,where he came from, who made him and everything around god angels evil soul…..??????
ter became non believer ,

Proud Muslim, Tulsa: Coolest place in the world (almost) (9/26/2009 10:51:42 AM)

I disagree with Mr. Husibi in about every way, but he has a right to choose his religion, or lack thereof.

Few Clothes, America (9/26/2009 12:35:04 PM)

Opinion. A moor is a group of people that began in Europe. Are you trying to spell more?

Fined is when you get a traffic citation and you have to remit money to the court. Are you trying to spell find or found?

Are you Oklahoma educated?

Few Clothes, America (9/26/2009 12:41:26 PM)

We were taking on motor fire in an open field in South Vietnam and all we could do was stay prone and scream. The atheist in my platoon screamed "God, make it stop". When it was over he looked around sheepishly and never brought up that incident or being a atheist again.

nucleardad, Tulsa (9/26/2009 1:34:31 PM)

Hey Few Clothes,

No athiests in fox holes, huh? Great story!

Few Clothes, America (9/26/2009 3:19:34 PM)

Amen. Nucleardad.

justiceawaits, Claremore (9/26/2009 3:21:01 PM)

After all this time people are still argueing, even killing each other over who has the best
"invisable friend who lives in the sky".
Jesus said it best when he said"love god with all Your heart and Love thy neighbor as you would Yourself".
Yet the ones who profess their Christianity are often the least tolerant of others. Mulims and other religions have their Haters to.
While I don`t choose to be an athiest myself,
I can certainly see where he is coming from.

Centrist, the burbs (9/26/2009 5:18:10 PM)

justiceawaits that might be true for some people and is seen undoubtedly in many nations with religious wars but I think there are many people that are actually more tolerant because of their belief in God.

I believe everyone has a choice whether to believe or not and they should not be denigrated by their choice.

Like Few Clothes, many people turn to God in the worst of situations. I choose to believe and know that I have been touched and used for God's works many times than I can count. I think most of do not notice enough how much he does for us or uses us to help others.

godless, (9/26/2009 8:01:26 PM)

you said "No athiests in fox holes, huh?"

maybe so. However, there are indeed "atheists in foxholes." lots of 'em. I'm not sure what an athiest is.

Darkstar, (9/26/2009 8:47:04 PM)

An atheist is a man who watches a Notre Dame - Southern Methodist University game and doesn't care who wins.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Darkstar, (9/26/2009 8:49:22 PM)

An atheist is a man who believes himself an accident.
Francis Thompson

Darkstar, (9/26/2009 8:50:30 PM)

But in America, if you're an atheist, you lose.
Michael Newdow

R U 4 Real?, BFE (9/26/2009 9:11:18 PM)

I would not trust this guy.

aint missbehavin, no thanks (9/27/2009 1:55:52 AM)

Whelp heres where I stand on the non believers.I believe!...but if thats how you choose to travel,well we can do that here in America and this fella ought to be glad he's here insted of there....Pick a good book up.

peaceonearth, tulsa (9/27/2009 11:39:24 AM)

Shame on this man. He is a disrespect to muslim community, and his statement is 100percent incorrect. Islam is a religion of peace and we have no respect for any organizations that have to do with any deaths of any kind. He needs to go back to the FAKE school he states he went to and get his facts straight about the quran.

DeltaDon, Geneva, Switz & Tulsa (9/27/2009 1:26:34 PM)

As a physicist, I cannot buy the white bearded guy in the sky who was patterened after the god Zeus. But I have experienced the extraordinary power, precision and infallability of an extraorninary force that guides everything and comes with its own exacting rules (not the 10 commandments). I wouldn't call it god, that would be diminishing. It's is a higher power, and it can be leveraged but its more of a system. Each of us has access to it and it can be used for good or evil, happiness or destruction. But each choice we make brings an immediate response. To choose good brings a magnitude of good. Evil brings brings a magnitude of evil all in many unexpected ways. Man has tried to manage the system by writing texts to control our actions. (Bible,Torah,Koran)but that is like using a garden hose to control a forest fire. Learn the rules of the universe and use them to create your perfect existance.

makoske_d, Muskogee (9/27/2009 6:06:28 PM)

Mr. Husibi spoke to us today at the Tulsa Atheists Meetup. The article resulted in threats against Mr. Husibi, his family and his business. I fail to see what a "peaceful" religion purveying an "ultimate truth" would have to fear from one person with an alternate view. People with true faith should reach out to a lost person but that is an area where religion routinely breaks down.

Mr. Hasibi explained at our meeting that he had no need for the myths and stories of any religion or any God that could allow the senseless religion based slaughter he witnessed as a Syrian soldier in Lebanon. No atheists in foxholes? War was proof to him that a God with any sort of benevolence could not exist.

Thank you Mr. Husibi for your courage to offer another way to order our lives.

opinion, tulsa (9/27/2009 8:15:17 PM)

Don Makoske We must find a way to come together to halt the kind of repression Mr husibi is experiencing MR husibi -aman who seem to consider himself ordinary -is doing extraordinary things Thank you sir for witnessing reason and logic to an insecure ,unreasonable and dangerous world .

Basil, Tulsa (9/28/2009 8:34:31 AM)

Atheism is the most irrational of all belief.

To be an atheist, in reality, you must conclude that "nothing created everything"--which is also a title a new book illuminating the irrationality of atheism. You can debate the details, but there is no rational foundation to say that all matter came into being from nothing. Most atheists only go back to the big bang, or evolution picking up at a point after creation of the cosmos, but they have no legitimate theory explaining the existence of the physical world.

Basil, Tulsa (9/28/2009 8:38:06 AM)

I applaud his realization that Islam is false and bravery to leave it, because all Islamic scholars teach that the penalty for leaving is death. They consider murdering an apostate an honorable act--which is an evil justification to commit such a heinous act. Keeping people bound to Islam at all costs is their goal, even if it takes intimidation by the threat of murder.