mayor_maynot, Tulsa (11/29/2009 3:50:45 AM)

You say it like it's a bad thing that these people document their activities. Doesn't that make it easier for them to be identified. Just a shot in the dark. But Nutt is making a shout in the dark.

mayor_maynot, Tulsa (11/29/2009 4:01:08 AM)

I dunno does FFA count. An organized group bent on victimization of pigs cows and chickens. Isn't that how a vegan sees it.

DBJohn, Tulsa (11/29/2009 7:02:31 AM)

Parents, do you know what your children are doing?

oldrustytulsa, Tulsa (11/29/2009 7:06:34 AM)

Now this would be easy, run those recorders, and gangs in the State Pens, Who is running the jails any way?, the Cons?

eriks_11, tulsa (11/29/2009 7:56:06 AM)

Gitmo ? it will be empty soon

Tony G, Tulsa (11/29/2009 8:38:07 AM)

I say, find a teen gang banger, put the PARENT in jail.

DBJohn, Tulsa (11/29/2009 8:40:49 AM)

What about a boot camp type school?

I also believe strongly there needs to be accountability by the parent.

taj1958, Henryetta (11/29/2009 10:57:19 AM)

If the law enforcement would do there job and find these GANG BANGERS,put them in a prison with no tv,radio,only bread and water like that use to
back in 1930's.These youngsters would think twice about joining.They could enforce HARD LABOR such has breakingrock!

Few Clothes, America (11/29/2009 11:10:16 AM)

I still like the idea of the movie "Escape from New York" for these dregs on society.

KJNOKIE, TULSA (11/29/2009 11:14:46 AM)

How much did the survey cost to find that gangmembers are using cell phones and texting? Everybody else already knew it.

TexNTulsa, Tulsa (11/29/2009 1:02:44 PM)

Wow. Let's do it! Let's take the kids out of school. Why would we want them in an environment that could possibly open the door on choices other than gang membership? You are brilliant Insider.

Woofenburger, Hominy (11/29/2009 1:41:18 PM)

Its all about the money. And the money comes from illegal drugs. The older gang members recruit the younger ones to do the dirty work and get arrested so they stay out of jail.

We are doing this to ourselves with the war on drugs. Its the same a prohibition did with alcohol.

Legalize drugs to make them cheap and you take away the incentive for gangs to exist. They are in it for the money while telling the youngsters that it is all about pride, etc.

Take away the money and watch the problem disappear.

White, (11/29/2009 3:49:08 PM)

Woofenburger you do have a point..but it looks as if law makers are not every going any were with it
and this will stay with us all a very long time.

The PR coming out of the TPD of late seems no more
then starting to do the jobs bring payed for on not only this subject but many other enforcements.

TPD..look into Chicago's cell and texts workup....

therealaxeman, (11/29/2009 7:16:45 PM)

The problem is… all the bleeding hearts trying to save us from ourselves. I agree... this war on drugs is getting us nowhere. I believe that we live in a free country where if you want to kill yourself you should have the right. From that premise it isn’t what goes in a person that’s bad for society… it’s what comes out of them.

Stands to reason that to make an impact we must focus on hold people accountable for their actions. If you do a crime you pay the full extent of the penalty. If you ignore or abuse your family you are held accountable.

I pity these drunks and druggies who hang out on street corners begging for their next fix. But it’s their choice and you force someone change who doesn’t want to change.

H_Harl, (11/29/2009 10:38:39 PM)

bull. gangs exist for the same reason 99% of all other criminals exist. they don't like the idea of working hard to get theirself out of that lifestyle. they like getting things the easiest way for them. no matter who they victimize to do it. period.

truth fairy, (11/30/2009 12:51:07 AM)

223 gangs in Tulsa now?
What have "law enforcement" been doing here since ten years ago, when there were only a few?
That DARE just say "no" thing doesn't work so well unless there's something better to say "yes" to.
These statistics alone are criminal.
Looks to me like our children's welfare has not been prioritized for quite a while.
Can you say "broken system", girls and boys?

forkandknife, Tulsa (11/30/2009 10:19:24 AM)

And they do this because they are so smart. Morons. I wonder what goes through their mind when they post, "Come joine my gang. We rob, kill, steal, and rape people for fun. It is awesome."

forkandknife, Tulsa (11/30/2009 10:20:45 AM)

Sorry. That was join**

shortie, tulsa (11/30/2009 12:47:42 PM)

did you guys find any great bargins at bestbuy on black friday? beepers were very cheap!!

H_Harl, (11/30/2009 7:16:07 PM)

dusty...you need to go outside and get some fresh oxygen to that addled brain of yours. explain what makes blaming criminals for being criminals racist? i don't think i ever said anything aout anyones race. you're just trying to find racists everywhere, aren't you? and what's this about blaming someobody for what i do?? i've never robbed or mugged anyone in my life. or sold or took drugs. i work an average of 60 hours a week, nimrod. so don't dream up this crap about blaming people for what i do. howbout you start blaming criminals for what criminals do, instead of blaming everyone else for what criminals do? wow. i feel like i'm in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

H_Harl, (11/30/2009 7:16:37 PM)

good go. what a frikkin moron.

A Tulsan, (11/30/2009 8:29:47 PM)

I blame the Tulsa PD. Short on staffed...yes. Short on brains...yes. When I read a story that says there are 223 gangs in Tulsa 3 days after I see 3 motorcycle cops and at least 8 police cars on the highway busting for speeding I take issue with that! If a STUDY can identify 223 gangs then why can't the PD? And if they know about the gangs why are they not taking action? Find a gun on a kid/adult/senior citizen...be they black/white/yellow/brown or even PURPLE you shoot first ask later. Don't be gentle with these kids. They have always proven themselves as a danger to society and must be treated as such. See a red bandana (for example or whatever they wear anymore) on a group of 6 huddled at a QT bust first ask later. See a gang tat on anyone and arrest...if they struggle beat the wholy crap outta them. Make gangs hate Tulsa so much they want to leave...need to leave! No pity...no shame...take care of business Tulsa PD...give the drivers a break for a week or two!