traveling man, (10/23/2009 7:55:02 AM)

Fox News Headline says: "Americans No Longer Swallowing Global Warming Dogma." They continue to feed us what we want to hear rather than the facts behind the scene.

Fox also has a Fox Green Guide website that says: "FOX is committed to reducing its impact on climate change and the environment. Towards this end, we are engaging our employees, productions, vendors and viewers in developing a “green” partnership that will allow us to continue to produce high quality productions with exacting standards, while minimizing our impact on the environment."

Rupert Murdock is very concerned about global warming on Australia. If you were to go to Newscorp, Fox parent company's website, you would find the following comment. "As part of News Corp.’s ongoing commitment to reducing its impact on climate change and the environment, Fox Entertainment Group has launched the FOX Green Guide, a web-based tool designed to enable television, film, sports, news and event producers and crew members to efficiently find climate- and environment-conscious guidance, as well as information on vendors who provide low-carbon and eco-friendly products and services."

fredsdad, Tulsa, OK (10/23/2009 9:48:18 AM)

On a recent trip to DC, I visited the natural history museum of the Smithsonian. I was amused by all of the climatology displays which talked of the coming ice age and global cooling. There was a sign up that said the displays would soon be updated to reflect the "new reality".

Man-made global warming is the biggest hoax perpetrated on the public since Time Magazine's cover of "The Coming Ice Age" which was purportedly caused by aerosol cans. That one put some people out of business, but the people promulgating it just happened to have an interest in the manufacture of R134A, a replacement for chorofluorocarbons, and they got rich.

While reading the majority of posts on this site would indicate to the contrary, maybe, just maybe people are getting smarter and less easy to fool.

Citizen M, Bartlesville (10/23/2009 11:27:48 AM)

I guess the latest news stories about the polar ice caps completely melting next summer and the polar bear facing extinction is just made up, too. Go ahead and keep your heads in the sand, folks; it's cooler underground anyway.

fredsdad, Tulsa, OK (10/23/2009 11:47:08 AM)

CM

The Arctic ice is retracting, the Antarctic ice is growing, along with Greenland.

It is possible that we could start losing polar bears in the Arctic at the rate of 100 or so a year. Alaska natives have no restriction on hunting polar bears, and Canada issues permits for around 300 a year. Cutting Canada's permits back to 200 would solve the problem far more cheaply than doubling my utility bills.

You are being lied to and taken for a fool.

Worried about the system, Tulsa (10/23/2009 12:07:52 PM)

Unfortunately, the American populace - which has the best research and manufacturing capabilities in the world at its disposal - prefers to pretend actions don't have consequences instead of leading the world in an initiative that could save the human race. In taking this mind-numbingly bad attitude, we will eventually make the world a worse place to live.

Which do you prefer: Having more now and less later? Or having less now and more later? Or saying, I'm here now, and I don't care what happens later?

fredsdad, Tulsa, OK (10/23/2009 12:49:56 PM)

WATS,

That is a question you need to ask your government. They seem quite willing to spend and borrow at an ever accelerating rate, which will leave nothing but debt for tomorrow.

So now global warming is going to wipe out the whole human race? That is concerning. Will it happen in the next 5 years or so? Surely we will last long enough to re-elect President Obama, won't we?

The U.S. has indeed made the world a much worse place to live. All the food and supplies and money and equipment we have provided disaster victims over the years have prevented way too many deaths, making the world more crowded. Same with taking out Saddam Hussein. With him not killing his own people at the rate of 50,000 a year, there's going to be more Iraqis than you can count, and that will surely make the world a worse place. We really, really screwed up in WW II. Can you imagine how much better the world would be if we had let Hitler have his way?
We need to stop all this AIDS medications and assistance going to Africa too.

I want to change this "mind-numbingly bad attitude" we have had. I truly want to help. Is there someone President Obama has not apologized to yet that I can write a letter telling them how terrible we have been? Should I slash tires on one of the trucks taking the AIDS drugs to be shipped?

We have obviously been the worst country in history. We just need to disband and let the rest of the world take over all this real estate.

Mr. Brown, Could be anywhere (10/23/2009 1:35:59 PM)

Seeing all of theose people protesting global warming during a snow storm probably had something to do with this...

2ndjoyce, BA (10/23/2009 1:47:32 PM)

All the hot air on this site every day has to be causing something.

lucky girl, mine (10/23/2009 1:48:55 PM)

Global warming is all a bunch of hot air anyway

Worried about the system, Tulsa (10/23/2009 2:14:12 PM)

Fredsdad writes: "So now global warming is going to wipe out the whole human race? That is concerning. Will it happen in the next 5 years or so? Surely we will last long enough to re-elect President Obama, won't we?"

Yes, the changes that our climate is undergoing is going to change life on Earth as we know it. Will the human race survive it? Probably. But maybe not. If we continue on our present course of hiding our collective human heads in the sand, there will most certainly be some global population control - a few major population centers will go away, some parts of the Earth will become completely uninhabitable, our food chain will get disrupted ... There are more than a few scenarios, and nobody really knows for sure.

Is there a possibility that they're totally wrong? That we're going to be just fine? Although more and more studies are showing that our present course could not possibly end in a pretty picture, a lot of people would apparently prefer to take that gamble. It just so happens, I'm not one of them. And I truly, truly hope that Barack Obama isn't either.

fredsdad, Tulsa, OK (10/23/2009 4:38:53 PM)

WATS,

Do you find that sand that your head is stuck in to be warm, and moist, and, oh, somewhat constricting and, ah, shall we say ... aromatic?

Worried about the system, Tulsa (10/23/2009 6:00:58 PM)

Crazy liberals, believing in science and fact. I'm kind of wondering about this aromatic sand, though. That does sound like an interesting way to spend an afternoon. Does it smell like sandalwood?

Ayo, T-Town (10/24/2009 8:58:22 AM)

This is how behind the science the Okie reich wing nuts are: you're still using the term 'global warming' when it should be 'global climate change'. It's a big world fellas. What happens in a temperate climate with little daily temperature inversion such as Oklahoma in the summer is definitely not going to be affected in the same manner as Montana, Canada, or Iceland.

Surely putting more and more GHG's into the atmosphere which throws off the balance of the naturally occuring N cycle, C cycle, and hydrological cycle one would think the Foxnews worshippers would grasp that the chemical reactions which ebb and flow in a constant drive to reach equilibrium would help them grasp that too much GHG's throws all of those cycles off kilter.

Acid rain anyone?

How about you guys go inhale your car exhaust on a daily baisis, and see how safe it is. Who knows? Maybe you guys ate lead base paint and this is the after effect.

dukeera, Jenks (10/24/2009 2:03:50 PM)

Many of you people worry me.

Please do yourself a favor and do a little research on your own, rather than regurgitating what partisans feed you.

I would suggest you begin your search for knowledge on this subject with NOAA or NASA.

yep, Tulsa County (10/24/2009 4:15:16 PM)

Finally some logic is coming into play, not just emotional reactions. The earth has gone through numerous cycles of warming and cooling. Science has proven this in modern times by examination of ice cores taken from the poles.

As a sidenote, Al Gore has made a fortune for himself by scaring people with a few real facts and most 'facts' taken out of context. The guy has a 'carbon footprint' bigger than hundreds of us put together; Google about his house and him turning a blind eye to the polluting mining occurring on his property. If people paid attention to what's behind the guy's story he'd be ignored. Hypocrisy at its finest.

TLFKRF, Tulsa (10/24/2009 11:19:12 PM)

AYO, the term "climate change" came in vogue so as to give ALGORE and his minions an out. They cant prove something that is not happening so you simply change the term to cover ANY climate change. P.S here is a little secret, THE CLIMATE IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING! It gets hot then it gets cold, its been doing that for thousands of years.

Worried about the system, Tulsa (10/25/2009 10:37:21 AM)

The climate is not constantly changing - you are thinking of weather. The Earth's climate has been pretty consistent since the last ice age.

Studies have indicated that many of the past major shifts in the Earth's climate have had a catalyst of some kind - an example is the theory that a meteor hit the Earth and caused the climate shift that wiped out the dinosaurs. Guess what? Human activity on this Earth, with our polluting and drilling and deforesting, has become a catalyst for climate change.

As for the change in terminology, scientists realized that the term "global warming" did not adequately describe what was happening. Educated people are open to change when new information arises.

GreyRoof, Tulsa (10/25/2009 11:09:26 AM)

Suffering Sunspots! Quit arguing whether personal, commercial and industrial waste may or may not cause a dramatic change in global climate. The accumulations of waste do have a profound effect on the environment. Why do you think we have Ozone Alerts? Do you want a world where you can't go outside without a filter mask? I keep hearing that municipal water systems can't keep up with building filters to catch all the pollutants we dump down the drains. We will eventually run out of places to pile our toxic trash. Belching exhaust from factory smokestacks, sewage and vehicle exhaust is proven to cause health problems. I say prudent changes in how we limit, produce and deal with waste will at the least make us healthier.