parksport, (9/29/2009 4:43:02 PM)

Leaving both abortion and religious debates aside for others to opine on, HB1595 seems to require patients to provide excessively detailed personal information for poorly defined purposes under the guise of preventing abortions based on the gender of the fetus without clarifying how this information will eventually be used or by who.

Proud Liberal, Weatherford (9/29/2009 5:11:33 PM)

BINGO parksport. And this from a political party who CLAIMS to dislike big government.

Thunder196, Tulsa (9/29/2009 5:25:57 PM)

I do not want to force my personal convictions on others, nor do I want someone else forcing their personal convictions on me. These elected officials seem to be doing that with this abortion bill. It should be challenged.

psychedelikrelik, Tulsa (9/29/2009 6:21:04 PM)

Ridiculous and intrusive, is there NO limit to what details of my personal life I must share with "the government?"

If it was me, I would SO lie my @$$ off.

insider9909, Cushing (9/29/2009 6:26:07 PM)

And the really nice thing is that these pro-birthers are costing taxpayer money. Drew should take a dive on this one.

Centrist, the burbs (9/30/2009 2:49:15 AM)

There is no other medical procedure that requires so much information required by the patient. This is ridiculous and an invasion of privacy.

dustyoutlaw, Tulsa (9/30/2009 5:29:25 AM)

LOL more lunatic fringe right wing nonsense. This won't get past any reviewing court in the land.

More pandering to the base.

Democrat, Tulsa County (9/30/2009 5:50:41 AM)

Well said by both, Centrist and dustyoutlaw. My wife and I always chose to add another welcomed little one to our family when she became pregant AND IT SHOULD BE OUR CHOICE-NOT ANYONE ELSE'S CHOICE.

We do not need Big Brother sticking his nose into our personal business.

dustyoutlaw, Tulsa (9/30/2009 5:57:51 AM)

Well you know Democrat I've said a number of times that I'm anti surgical abortion except for rape/incest/save a mother's life and I prefer the "morning after pill".

Having said that I don't want the govt making my decision either way so I won't make the decision for others.

Teddy Bear 1975, Eufaula (9/30/2009 6:44:32 AM)

It is a women if she go to bed with the guy or not. Abortion is cold blooded murder period.

Democrat, Tulsa County (9/30/2009 6:54:42 AM)

Wrong, Teddy Bear. Abortion is abortion. Murder is the wrongful taking of the life of another "person" as defined by law. Check out the constitutional definition of "person" that you can find in the fourteenth amendment. (All persons BORN or Naturalized.....etc.)

Eric, Tulsa (9/30/2009 7:38:00 AM)

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The only violation here is the imposition of a few self-righteous lawmakers demanding that others follow their religious ideology.
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AdamM, Tulsa (9/30/2009 7:57:16 AM)

Agreed. Big Bro needs to back the hell up. I am not for abortion. At the same time I have no right forcing my opinion on anyone. Big Bro is out to save us from ourselves again. YAY

cant_stop_jack, five (9/30/2009 8:21:59 AM)

More left liberal dogs with their do what you want lifestyle of sleeping with a man the night before and then killing the baby as a form of birth control. If I was murdering babies, I would not want to be reminded of it or hace to explain it either. Bottom of the barrel people for allowing the murder of babies behind closed doors. Pathetic. And it has nothing to do with religion, Eric the idiot. It has to do with murdering a baby. Are you that lacking of a soul? Of course you are.

cant_stop_jack, five (9/30/2009 8:23:40 AM)

Adam, let them kill their own babies huh? God see this. You cannot mouth off ignorance between cigarettes and beer and expect to be taken seriously. Let men rape children, as long as you don't do it, huh? Let women be raped as long as you don't do it? Let babies be murdered as long as you don't do it? You are even more pathetic.

cant_stop_jack, five (9/30/2009 8:25:44 AM)

dustyoutlaw, then murder should be allowed? Murder rape and stealing? Besides, if you do not know God, then it is the Government coming into your lives telling you not to do these things. I guess you think raping a child is ok? Of course you do. Amazing. The justification from the ignorant.

psychedelikrelik, Tulsa (9/30/2009 8:28:40 AM)

cant_stop_jack and all you other self-appointed moral custodians need to sweep out your own filthy life and stop trying to control the PRIVATE lives of women. This is none of your business.

Like I've said before, if they were asking me these ridiculous and invasive questions, I would lie my @$$ off!

Phil # 3, Yukon (9/30/2009 8:43:18 AM)

I'm sure we don't want to inconvenience women or make them in any way responsible for their decisions, whether the one that caused the pregnancy or the one that ends it.
Abortion on demand makes women as irresponsible as children and should be an insult even before considering the moral argument. Add to the fact that mothers can abort to skip the responsibility of their previous actions, they can also arrange to have the baby adopted or simply abandon a newborn and walk away, no questions asked in addition to keeping the baby and demanding either the government or the father pay her for her actions and decision. She also makes the father's decisions who has none of his own after conception.
The whole point is that many women demand "rights", which when all is said and done, it means rights without responsibility for women only. While there are others, abortion for convenience is one of the best examples.

:), (9/30/2009 8:43:21 AM)

I also hear that meat is murder... tasty murder.
Is it ok for MEN to eat steak as long as you don't?

And If abortion is murder, is miscarriage manslaughter?

Ayo, T-Town (9/30/2009 9:25:24 AM)

>>>>>"the age, marital status and education level of the woman; the number of previous pregnancies; a reason for the abortion; the method of the abortion and method of payment; the cost of the abortion; the type of medical health insurance; whether an ultrasound was given; and the nature of the mother's relationship with the father."

* Marital Status??
* Educational Level??
* RELATIONSHIP with the father??

Try any of that on an man and see just how far the bill would go. A man would NEVER allow any of that to be dic tated to him.

I hope this lawsuit sends these un-impregnable bozos back to the h ell from which they arose.

Ayo, T-Town (9/30/2009 9:28:02 AM)

No man will ever tell me what I can and cannot do.
Whether it's legal or illegal. No man will ever dic tate anything.

Don't need one to support me and never have, so I darn sure don't have to explain the 'relationship' with some bozo.

CHRISTIAN TALIBAN is alive and well in Oklahoma.

mnobles63, Tulsa (9/30/2009 10:13:33 AM)

So much for "keeping government out of our healthcare". To use an old quote "they want government off our back, but they don't mind it in a woman's uterus".

mnobles63, Tulsa (9/30/2009 10:14:36 AM)

AYO, if men had babies there would be an abortion clinic on every corner

dustyoutlaw, Tulsa (9/30/2009 11:13:41 AM)

You know what Jack? You accusing pro choice of being pedophile baby rapers shows just how unhinged you are. While I personally do not agree with surgical abortion, I tolerate it because it's the lesser of two evils.

The prime evil here is people like you who think that government intervention in health care is bad but see nothing wrong with government intervention into controlling everything else about our bodies to be proper.

The prime evil is saying that every conception has to be born to be subjected to the sex police like yourself.

dustyoutlaw, Tulsa (9/30/2009 11:14:56 AM)

Exactly Ayo. they are the Christian Taliban.