JB, Chicago (11/6/2009 12:15:05 PM)

Why does Coburn hate the troops?

Hijinx, (11/6/2009 12:26:13 PM)

Oh Ok, now I understand it was a hypocrite oath he took and not the Hippocratic Oath.

truth fairy, (11/6/2009 12:32:42 PM)

Senator Coburn is doing an excellent job of always being wrong. What a "maverick".

hmmm, (11/6/2009 12:34:09 PM)

this is one of the stupidiest stories that TW has allowed to be carried. it doesn't state WHY he is opposed. Jim Meyers should go back to Journalism 101.

Here is another hack job story but TW won't cover it but written in the same vein: "Obama hates the dead troops in Ft Hood because of his failure to address the tragedy immediately in a recent speech with Indians" Come on!

I seriously doubt that Coburn hates the troops. Must be some earmark in the bill that has absolutely no tie to veterans benefits (as almost all legislation does).

truth fairy, (11/6/2009 12:36:13 PM)

Don't be too sure about that, what_was_is.
It was the NRA that put Coburn in office.

hmmm, (11/6/2009 12:37:30 PM)

Here, off his website:

"November 5, 2009

Facts about the Veterans Caregiver Bill
Facts about S. 1963 – Caregiver and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act

1. Dr. Coburn is NOT opposing the veterans caregiver bill, he merely wants to debate and amend the legislation to improve it.

2. The veteran caregiver bill currently discriminates against Vietnam veterans, Gulf War I veterans, and World War II veterans.

3. The veteran caregiver bill duplicates an existing program that has been providing benefits for decades to veterans to take care of themselves in their homes rather than nursing homes or hospitals.

4. Unlike the veteran caregiver bill, Dr. Coburn’s amendment increases benefits for all veterans, and reduces wasteful spending in order to guarantee that veterans today and in the future will receive the benefits they have earned, including these new caregiver benefits."

So the Coburn wants to be frugal and pass smart legislation. And as Gomer would say, "surprise, surprise, surprise," he doesn't hate the troops.

And no, I don't know the senator, never given him money, and i don't work for him.

hmmm, (11/6/2009 12:42:34 PM)

Calloy,
i'm a vet and i follow all the vet-related issues closely, and i'm not lock-step with Coburn numerous issues. But i do pay taxes and like them to be spent smartly. You don't?

Here is something you can comment on. Why did we just spend nearly a trillion dollars on work/employment stimulus,..and today we continue our launch to 10.2 unemployment? Must be amatuer hour on this tread. yawn.

truth fairy, (11/6/2009 12:43:04 PM)

Coburn doesn't hate the troops, hmmm.
He just believes that only millionares and the corporate employed should have healthcare insurance. Everyone else should be beggars, so good C-street christians like himself can feel holy when they toss us a crumb.

nellpost, drayden (11/6/2009 12:49:09 PM)

Coburn (and Inhofe, as well) is a strange person, indeed. Why, why, why, Oklahomans, are your representatives in congress so lame?

hmmm, (11/6/2009 12:49:48 PM)

truth fairy,

I just would suggest one thing, whatever Congress passes, they, along with their families must live under the same thing.

With that in mind, i didn't understand the whole "Coburn doesnt' hate the troops...he just believes millionaires..yada yada yada.."...connection.

With that appropriately noted,..i don't have enough info to comment on the healthcare plan. However, it does seem that the increasing costs are spending our small businesses into the ground, where they can't compete with global markets. Not everyone can work at Taco Bell (which food i'm addicted to, by the way.)

hmmm, (11/6/2009 12:52:03 PM)

nellpost,
given the fact that neither Coburn or Inhofe are Representatives,...that is a question better suited for those names that actually are.

As for the implied lameness of our Senators,...well,..their demeanor and vote record must be generally in accord with state sentiments, otherwise,..they wouldn't be elected. You must be in Puerto Rico?

nunyerbisness, Tulsa (11/6/2009 12:52:57 PM)

gosh hmmmm glad Coburn's done all the thinkin for ya.

Garf56, (11/6/2009 12:57:46 PM)

Grand Old Idiot,, you are the party hack. Whatever Coburn and Inpuke say you see to always think it is just GRAND.

Davy Crotchety, Tulsa (11/6/2009 12:59:03 PM)

"So the Coburn wants to be frugal and pass smart legislation."

According to Coburn, that is. That's brilliant cheez-whiz.

- In what way SPECIFICALLY does the bill discriminate against veterans? Veterans themselves seem to be fine with it, so I want to ask you to tell me.

- Wow. Coburn also says he can increase benefits for veterans AND reduce spending at the same time. He must be some kind of wizard...or, he's full of ****. Again, dazzle us with some specifics.

Coburn is an obstructionist. He does not care about veterans or anybody else. He believes his job is to wreck things and, if he had any more power, he'd be far worse than he is right now.

hmmm, (11/6/2009 1:01:49 PM)

Calloy,
Well,...you being a marine vet is your first problem. The most you guys can do is read a mortar launcher saying "this end up". lol Just kidding. Thanks for your service!

With that jokingly said..
The cut-and-paste job speaks for itself: "...divert money from unspent economic and job stimulus programs to cover costs of new benefits for veterans and their families." One question here is ....WHY is it unspent as people still lose jobs?? Maybe because the stimulus plan isn't working???...who knows.

It is at least worth a debate as a funding source before passage

psychedelikrelik, Tulsa (11/6/2009 1:06:58 PM)

Under the present program to assist vets in their home, they get a caregiver for FIVE HOURS A WEEK.

This is almost as bad as nothing at all.

Part of my job is arranging this care and I can tell you these wonderful vets need and deserve much more care.

There is no question that assistance to allow them to stay in their own homes as long as possible is much more cost-effective than allowing their condition to deteriorate to the point where they must be institutionalized.

truth fairy, (11/6/2009 1:07:03 PM)

My comments about Coburn, hmmm, were referring to his attitude towards health insurance. At a town hall this summer one of his constituents told her story of how her husband was denied neccessary treatment for cancer by their insurance company, and they couldn't possibly afford to pay for it. Coburn's response was that the people in her church and community should come to her aid. His solution to people that can't afford the current outrageous premiums is to go on medicaid, which pretty much requires a declaration of poverty.

2ndjoyce, BA (11/6/2009 1:13:19 PM)

Hahaha. Put a D by Coburn's name and those on the right would be screaming at the top of their lungs. At least be freakin' honest with yourselves, even if you won't admit it to the rest of us.

hmmm, (11/6/2009 1:15:55 PM)

Calloy, oops,...called you a marine vet by mistake when you are army,...now i have to apologize to the marines...haha just kidding.

truth fairy,...i guess its time for the proverbial "where you stand depends on where you sit." As such, if i was a vet wrapped in depends in a vet home, i would be hollering for any new benefit i could get. no doubt. the larger question for all to ponder, is...how are we to pay for this?? How much further into debt will we allow our country to go?($11,900,000,000,000.00) Better yet, how much further will China allow our country to go?

Or do we even care? Will the new classes evolve into the sick versus the healthy ala Soylent Green?

zzx375, BA (11/6/2009 1:17:42 PM)

Why does Coburn employ the Senates own procedural rules?

truth fairy, (11/6/2009 1:18:38 PM)

"All of you are just partisan hacks",
Grand Old Partier types, while listening to Limbaugh and watching RNC operated fauxnews.

HONES, T-Town (11/6/2009 1:19:37 PM)

These things should have never become an issue. We treat our Veterans badly. Have since WW2 when we promised we'd take care of our soldiers. All we did was spit in their faces for defending the USA. Coburn and the rest of them should be hung from a high branch.

U.S. PATRIOT, Americana, U.S.A. (11/6/2009 1:27:19 PM)

Maybe some of you pinko liberals should look into the matter before you hurl your left-wing garbage.

For a detailed explaination: coburn,senate,gov

truth fairy, (11/6/2009 1:28:59 PM)

That's the thing, hmmm. We're already paying for it, were just not getting it.
Our medicare contributions were porked out with corporate subsidies in 2003,
and less than half of our premiums for private insurance go to actual medical benefits.
We can do better, 37 other countries in the world are.

cowboytimothy, (11/6/2009 1:29:01 PM)

Coburn is an embarrasment to this state, and never votes for the common man. This hold is no exception, he is devoid of any common sense whatsoever.