Victim’s father: Death threats against daughter, family
Amanda Douglas’ father is confident he knows who killed his daughter, and he believes it’s the same man his daughter filed three petitions for protective orders against within the last year.
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Larry Oscar Douglas Jr., Amanda’s husband, is an obvious person of interest in the case, police said, but they’ve found no evidence linking him to the crime.
Amanda Marie Douglas, 26, and Jennifer Lynn Sudar, 37, were gunned down in the parking lot of the Bristol Park Apartments, 4414 S. Garnett Road, on Nov. 26.
“They’re blaming me for something I didn’t do, you know, and that’s basically it,” Douglas told the Tulsa World in a telephone interview.
Search warrant returns were filed Tuesday showing police sought and obtained his DNA, fingerprints and phone records.
Six days and six miles
Amanda Douglas petitioned for a protective order against her husband six days before her death. In the document, she wrote Larry Douglas Jr. grabbed her by her arms and threw her down, causing her to pass out, when she tried to walk away from an argument on Nov. 9.
“Somehow I got away and I had to walk around six miles to get somewhere safe and have someone come get me,” she told the court.
She was granted an emergency protective order, her third against Larry Douglas since February, but was slain before a Dec. 3 hearing for a final order of protection.
“She was scared to leave him, definitely,” said Michael Drywater, Amanda’s father who lives in Pryor, in an interview with the World.
Court records show she also sought protective orders on Feb. 27 and June 23, alleging he had physically, mentally and emotionally abused her over the past five years, including choking her while she was pregnant.
He “threatened to make my life miserable, threatened to kill me and my whole family. He also threatened to beat me till I’m dead,” she alleged in the June petition.
Drywater confirmed the threats. The family met for a meal at a barbecue restaurant in recent months when Larry Douglas “showed up.” He allegedly tried to hit her and take their infant daughter, Drywater said.
“He told us then that he’d have us all taken out, so I do know he has something to do with it,” Amanda’s father said of her death. “He said too many times that he knew too many people (and) that he would take our whole family out.”
Amanda Douglas left the courtroom before a final protective order hearing could be held after the June petition. Case notes show she first asked the order be dismissed but changed her mind after speaking to a courthouse Domestic Violence Intervention Services advocate. She was then asked to wait in the courtroom to testify but left.
The February order was dismissed when neither Amanda nor Larry Douglas appeared for the final order hearing.
Prosecutors charged him with domestic assault and battery by strangulation and domestic assault and battery in the presence of a minor child twice after the alleged February assault but requested the charges be dismissed when Amanda Douglas failed to testify against him both times. The District Attorney’s Office said had they left either case open, a judge would have eventually dismissed it with prejudice, which would prohibit the state from trying the case at a later date should the victim decide to testify.
Larry Douglas maintains “there was no violent history” between him and his wife, except an occasion when she allegedly attacked him, and that filing protective orders against him and his ex-wives was a game to her.
Two orders filed against Douglas’ ex-wives were dismissed in March due to insufficient evidence. Both petitions allege the women were trying to take custody of the couple’s then 3-month-old daughter.
One of them, Misty Douglas, told the Tulsa World “Larry loved Amanda and wanted her to get help for her drug problem.”
A short-lived marriage
Larry Douglas married Amanda in Fort Smith, Arkansas, on March 18, 2013, but filed for divorce less than seven weeks later. He also filed a motion for his then-pregnant wife to be drug tested and requested temporary possession of all their belongings.
A process server hired by Larry Douglas’ attorney was unable to find Amanda Douglas and serve the divorce petition, which apparently stymied the case until her February 2014 protective order filing.
Amanda Douglas would later tell the court Larry Douglas held her captive at their home and lied about not knowing her whereabouts.
Larry Douglas was granted temporary custody of their daughter in August after he submitted an affidavit detailing neglect allegations against his wife. He said she took the baby from their home and left her with people he described as “parties unknown” to him, for a couple of nights. He also alleged she had a history of illegal drug use and that she had been arrested days earlier on an outstanding criminal felony warrant.
Wagoner County court records show she failed to pay costs after receiving a two-year deferred sentence in a 2006 case for a vandalism charge listed as “molesting an automobile,” which resulted in a guilty finding in the case by the court. State court databases showed no additional criminal cases against her and she did not have an arrest history with Tulsa police.
On Nov. 13, less than two weeks before her death, Amanda Douglas followed suit and filed for emergency custody of her daughter.
The custody motion repeats the protective order allegations of physical and mental abuse by her husband, as well as unsecured firearms in the home, drug use and drug distribution by Larry Douglas. A judge requested the Department of Human Services review both parents’ motions for emergency custody and delayed ruling until a Nov. 24 hearing, sources said. The DHS report had not been completed so no action was taken at that time and the baby remained in Larry Douglas’ custody.
Larry Douglas said he’s confident he would have been awarded custody of the girl, who turned one on Dec. 3 — the same day Amanda Douglas was buried.
“Amanda had a drug problem, so lying came with the drug problem,” he said.
Her father said “if she was (on drugs), it was because he was giving them to her.”
“As long as she stayed away from him, she (did) great but he had something over her,” Drywater said.
Larry Douglas has been cooperative with police, providing his DNA and fingerprints on Dec. 1, he said and records confirmed. He also said Amanda spent the weekend before her death at his house.
Sources close to Amanda Douglas said she did not see Larry that weekend but stayed with his cousin, who was caring for the baby.
“I have nothing to hide,” he told the World. “All I want to do is raise my daughter. I miss my wife. I would never want my wife to be dead.”
Tulsa homicide detectives said Larry Douglas is one of many people under investigation in connection to the double homicide.
“He has not been cleared by any stretch of the imagination, but he’s not been charged because we haven’t found anything to say he did it,” Sgt. Dave Walker said.
He said either way, whether he was or was not involved in the killings, investigators don’t think Larry Douglas was the shooter.
Larry Douglas’ arrest history shows he was jailed by Tulsa police on complaints of possessing cocaine in 2006, selling cocaine in 2003 and two separate assaults in 2002. He was charged in the assault cases, once with shooting with intent to kill and once with assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, but the cases were dismissed.
He and his brother were charged with shooting at a man and his family after a car chase from Eighth Street and Peoria Avenue to near Florence (111th) Street and Aspen Avenue in Broken Arrow in January 2002, records show. That case was “dismissed at the request of the state” but the District Attorney’s Office wasn’t immediately able to clarify why.
The brothers were accused of beating a man using a crowbar and a stick in October 2002, but the victim failed to appear in court resulting in that case’s dismissal.
Homicide detectives are still seeking a key piece of evidence in the murders: a gold, four-door 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix bearing Oklahoma license plate 231GDS. The car was reported stolen the day before the homicides and was captured in the area by the apartment complex’s surveillance system at the time the women were killed.
Anyone with information about the shooting deaths of Amanda Douglas and Jennifer Sudar can contact homicide detectives at,
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6 comments:
angela starr posted at 2:03 pm on Fri, Dec 19, 2014.
and Gina, I was there the whole time. from the beginning of their relationship to the end and I can tell you she had to stay with him. I was in her shoes at one time. all she wanted was to live her life, and raise her daughter away from drugs and violence.
angela starr posted at 7:58 am on Wed, Dec 17, 2014.
I am amanda's mother. I am severely heart broken at the loss of my youngest daughter. why couldn't larry separate from my daughter like he did his other wives? she was getting her life together. she was scared of not being perfect. not letting the baby cry> the bathtub always being clean.which shirts to be dried. his food being the right temperature.couldnt leave the house without an escourt. she couldn't leave with the baby by herself,and if she did only had a certain amount of time to get back or get beaten. these are only a few things she had to tolerate in order to be with her baby. he isolated her from her family. and larry? where is my bullet?. you said you had enough money to put a bullet in all of us. I was on the phone with Amanda when you said it.
John Elwell posted at 3:18 am on Mon, Dec 15, 2014.
Liar? Prove it!
Anyway I won the first round with you Laura. People sometimes get mad when they are losing the argument.
Gina McClelland posted at 3:54 pm on Sun, Dec 14, 2014.
We are ONLY reading subjective feelings of the family and court records (public information) dated back in 2006 and further. Unfortunately, and understandably, the victims past was not dredged up. This is a tragic situation for all. The baby shared by these two is, and was, with Mr. Douglas. The state does not leave children in violent, aggressive homes. Sadly, Mrs Douglas was on drugs and court records (unavailable to public) prove that. Lets be a little slower with judgment. Many, many victims in this situation with absolutely NO facts besides 8 year old records. People change. Prayers to all involved.
John Elwell posted at 10:38 am on Sun, Dec 14, 2014.
You actually don't hear very well do you? ...It was last week the TW ran articles on abused women. And yes I do partly blame women for staying in those relationships. In this case Amanda, was trying to get away from her abuser. One she should have never gotten herself into. Douglas criminal history is there for anyone who wants to look. I am sure she was well aware of.
You haven't been on this forum long enough to know who I am. And I'm still not sure if you are not hiding behind a screen. People like you generally like to hide when they insult people...Small minded? Right back at you.
John Elwell posted at 7:52 am on Sun, Dec 14, 2014.
Douglas, may not have actually pulled the trigger. Looking at his record, he's a bad dude and you can bet he's connected to the murders. Why a woman would even keep company with someone of his caliber is beyond me?