Stupid is, as Stupid Does, Owasso (8/29/2009 5:04:54 AM)

I really dont see how this stimulates the economy. Isnt that what stimulus money is for? However, unlike many other democrat and republican pet projects, at least this one is worth while and necessary.

Thunder196, Tulsa (8/29/2009 7:50:03 AM)

Anytime we can help someone get back on their feet, and become self supporting, in the end it has helped the economy. They start living productive lives, therefore they are earning their own way, and are spending their money in our community.

Bville, (8/29/2009 8:48:46 AM)

Good grief. If THIS can be considered under the umbrella of "stimulating the economy" well then anything can.

It is also amusing how giving people their own money back via federal handouts/programs stimulates the economy, but giving people their own money back via tax relief doesn't.

Hobbs, Tulsa (8/29/2009 10:12:24 AM)

Stupid & Bville both of you are the perfect example of the narrow minded and small thinking by the rightwingers on this board. NONE of you can ever see past your wallet and see the potential for the common good and the investment in societal good. Here in the domestic violence capital of the country it could certainly be a force for good. But no you wingers whine and gripe about your wallet...in a state who already pays the lowest taxes in all areas in the country.

I would like to hear from you government haters as to what exactly you believe the responsibility of the Federal Government of the US is toward it's citizens other than the military and dealing with other nations. You are pathetic!

Bullhead, Nicut (8/29/2009 10:31:10 AM)

Hobbs, you must like reruns. You know what the government hates will say. The same things they've been saying over and over in hopes of hypnotizing us into believing the same way they do.

None of them will understand unless they've been battered or raped or have a handicapped child and actually need the government to help.

Now, on the other side, I truly pray that our government will indeed care for our elders and handicapped and real needy families. I can say that I wouldn't mind counseling these women who tend to have children and more children to live on the government's good nature to not do it anymore.

Ari Hinkelberger, (8/29/2009 10:58:09 AM)

Boren was the only guy to vote for it. Not mentioned in the article.

Bville, (8/29/2009 11:09:27 AM)

Hey Hobbs. I did NOT say that government money should not be spent on these people or that it was an unworthy effort. What I said was the money that is being spent was SUPPOSED to be for stimulating the ECONOMY and if THIS is considered as stuimulating the economy then anything can be billed as such.

Bville, (8/29/2009 11:10:51 AM)

Oh, and are you telling me that there are not numerous EXISTING state/federal/charitable programs that address this already?

52favoriteteacher, Washburn--used to be Broken Arrow (8/29/2009 6:15:47 PM)

Too many taxes,Too many programs,Too much waste

Stupid is, as Stupid Does, Owasso (8/30/2009 12:44:50 AM)

Hobbs, obviously blinded by liberalism. Did even bother to comprehend what I wrote.

Stupid is, as Stupid Does, Owasso (8/30/2009 1:19:07 AM)

Bullhead, you are saying what most like Hobbs wont ever understand. Most of us would gladly open our wallets for the elderly, handicapped and the real needy families. But when you get the federal government involved, you have fraud, waste, and unfair treatment.

If Hobbs and his government could come up with a fair, equitable, and method free of fraud and waste, that truly helped the elderly in need, the truly handicapped, and truly families in need, then I say you would eliminate almost all of the opposision to any plan.

And to Hobbs concerning this statement...

I would like to hear from you government haters as to what exactly you believe the responsibility of the Federal Government of the US is toward it's citizens other than the military and dealing with other nations.

Read the constitution, the bases for our laws in the United States. Primarily, the responsibility of the Federal Government to its citizens is protection of the citizens(military) and dealing with other nations. Hobbs, you made the point for us. Where is the reference to social programs in the constitution????

Centrist, close enough (8/30/2009 2:40:46 AM)

Bullhead, you will also want to counsel the men that helped get these women pregnant and support their children with regular monthly payments and be there for them in an active role.

This was suppose to be stimulus money, stimulate the economy, not social service support money.

Yes, I understand that is needed but it should come from state and local sources. These organizations should have someone on staff that speaks to local philanthripists for assistance and fund raising efforts. I would gladly give to these organizations if I knew they were fund raising, charity begins at home.

It's not about hating the government it is about how they our spending the stimulus money, not spent on stimulating our economy which was suppose to be the goal....