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The 'birthers'
Don't encourage them, senator
By World's Editorial Writers
Published:
7/29/2009 2:25 AM
Last Modified: 7/29/2009 4:13 AM
Conspiracy theorists are a stubborn bunch. Facts usually don't deter them. And encouragement, especially from a U.S. senator, doesn't help.
Oklahoma's senior senator, Jim Inhofe, might not have thrown gasoline on the whacky theory that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States but neither did he try to douse the flames.
Asked about the issue close to Obama-haters' hearts, Inhofe said: "I believe those people who are concerned about his birth certificate, about whether he is a citizen and qualified, I encourage them to do that."
Oh, senator. You could have done the right thing and dismissed this goofiness for what it is, and reminded people that there are far more important issues to worry about.
But, instead, you gave them some legitimacy. (Inhofe did at least say he is more interested in Obama's positions on such issues as health care and the environment.)
Those who pursue this whimsical notion that they can somehow remove Obama from office by proving that he is not a citizen are known as "birthers." Despite a preponderance of evidence to the contrary, they insist that the president was not born in the U.S. and that he and goodness knows how many other people are involved in a conspiracy to hide that "fact."
Of course, the state of Hawaii has verified his 1961 birth certificate — Hawaii became a state in 1959 — but that is not enough for the "birthers." Even other Republicans have declared the conspiracy theory nonsense and have moved on.
But the "birthers," like the alien abduction believers, Kennedy conspiracy adherents, the Big Foot hunters and those who believe in the bogeyman, will not be deterred. We don't expect they will be. But it would have been nice if Sen. Inhofe had shown some statesmanship. We expect more of our leaders.
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Loki
, Broken Arrow (7/29/2009 2:38:34 AM)
To borrow the former Fed chairman's phrase: Oklahoma's conspiracists are suffering from "irrational exuberance".
Our U.S. senate delegation has shown a pattern of shouting "fire" whenever it suits their political fancy. Baitsmen, yes. Statesmen, no.
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Thunder196
, Tulsa (7/29/2009 2:50:44 AM)
He may not have thrown on gasoline, but he sure did fan the flames of encouragement.
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Carl
, Henryetta (7/29/2009 8:06:56 AM)
Some people are such poor losers, it's just incredible to me.
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Dr. Strangelove
, Tulsa (7/29/2009 8:09:33 AM)
Nothing Inhofe says surprises me anymore
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tulsan09
, Tulsa (7/29/2009 8:09:49 AM)
Democrate or Republican--you have to admit that these "birthers" are just plain looney-toons.
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Bville
, (7/29/2009 8:11:15 AM)
Yes, and it would have been nice had the Tulsa World treated the same goofy accusations of the Bush haters with equal disdain. But alas...
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Peter Piper
, TULSA (7/29/2009 8:23:17 AM)
The topic (birth facts) brings out the Yahoos. Talk radio stations have milked it to death. Forget Mr. Inhofe----he's beyond hope.
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Eagle 4
, Tulsa (7/29/2009 8:46:40 AM)
Just because it won't stick doesn't mean one should keep the monkeys from throwing it, right, Jim?
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A Concerned Citizen
, (7/29/2009 8:55:26 AM)
Inhofe knows very well what he's doing. Continuing to cloud the issue of Obama's legitimacy while appealing to his base.
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TonyQ
, Tulsa (7/29/2009 8:57:58 AM)
Inhofe only has to worry about being reelected in Oklahoma. Most other national Republican politicians are in the same boat--beholden to their ultra-conservative constituencies to whom any sanity that might appeal to the nation at large is heresy. The current GOP crop has no leader so they're fending for themselves. No party that goes out of its way to appeal to the looniest of the loony (that's you, birthers) has any expectation of regaining national power any time soon.
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Bedazzled
, (7/29/2009 9:37:16 AM)
This is something the bottom of the barrel GOP's are trying to do even though they know Obama was born in the good old USA. They think it will help but I think the stupidity will backfire on their group.
Inhofe himself is extreme and corrupt and we have paid our tax money on his trips he get out of the country promoted by C Street (what a waste of money). I wish we could vote him out.
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Bedazzled
, (7/29/2009 9:37:36 AM)
What a clown.
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Bville
, (7/29/2009 9:42:11 AM)
Thanks to one and all for proving yet again your selectivity when it comes to being outraged by "extreme," "appealing to the base," "clouding issues." LOL!
And Bedazzled continues with factless, unsupported accusations. Whoa, there's a surprise.
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Arbythree
, Tulsa (7/29/2009 9:53:23 AM)
I totally agree with the Editorial.
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Willard_Roker
, (7/29/2009 9:54:55 AM)
I never thought Bill O'riely and Ann Coulter would get anything right... make that correct they are always extremely right, but even they admit this is silliness.
This is the problem with the extreme right, they are so caught up in their war of ideology they can't see the forrest for the trees.
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Webmeister
, Tulsa (7/29/2009 10:04:15 AM)
In July 2008, Senator McCain's Democratic Presidential opposition forced him to prove he was in fact a "natural born citizen" of the U.S.
He released about 1,000 pages of documents related to his birth in the Panama Canal Zone, while his father was stationed there on active military duty.
The Panama Canal Zone was a U.S. territory administered by the U.S. Government, until administration was turned over to the Panamanian Government by President Peanuthead Jiminy Carter.
Taking a secretive and defensive tact utilizing legions of Democrat lawyers like Mr. Daniel who conducted the latest "ethics investigation" of Gov. Sarah Palin, Comrade Obama has chosen to embargo his original TYPED Hawaiin birth certificate.
Why?
Is there something possibly embarrassing to Comrade Obama on that document, if it actually exists?
Likewise, Comrade Obama chose to embargo the release of ALL of his Illinois State Senatorial papers. Why?
Mysteriously, for the reputed SMARTEST PRESIDENT EVER, ALL of his college transcripts have been embargoed, as well.
These would show courses taken and passed/failed, his GPA, his citizenship status, etc.
Wonder why this routine info is embargoes?
What would they tell us about
Comrade Obama.......?
Majored in Marxist-Leninism while at Columbia University's Frankfort School for the Study of Critical Theory of Marxism?
At Columbian, enrolled in an independent study class on Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, which he later coached while an ACORN affiliated Community Agitator in Chicago?
An Affirmative Action Baby, maybe, at Harvard?
Just maybe the TOP academic student wasn't picked that time for the Editor of the Harvard Law Review......Oops!
Foreign Student Status while at Occidental College?
From WHERE?
So many questions, but curiously, so few answers.....
No, the people asking these questions should not derisively be referred to by our local newspaper as "Birthers".
Rather, call them PATRIOTS.........
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Arbythree
, Tulsa (7/29/2009 10:10:33 AM)
Wow Webmeister. Your typing took up so much space and said nothing.
BUT, I give your typing skills a B.
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Webmeister
, Tulsa (7/29/2009 10:58:05 AM)
Arby3:
Yes, I must find that Spell-Chek Icon sometime....
But, busy, busy, busy.
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uklynbereg
, (7/29/2009 11:27:20 AM)
Webmeister, your syphillis joke says more about you than Obama's mother, who went on to get a PhD. in anthropology.
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Webmeister
, Tulsa (7/29/2009 11:54:46 AM)
"Syphillis Test Administered" was a standard question on every birth certificate at the time.
Wasn't a question about it on yours, too? Strange, if it isn't.
It was on mine.
Mother passed, too!
Did yours?
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Norm
, (7/29/2009 12:10:46 PM)
Far be it for me to agree with WebmeisterBates - BUT.....
If there is nothing to hide - why doesn't obama just authorize the release of both his LONG FORM ORIGINAL Certificate of Live Birth (The one showing the signature of the doctor who delivered him), and his records from Occidental College??
Forgive me if I don't just take the word of some obama hack that it's legit. Release it! Their continued obstinancy only reinforces our suspicions.
And WHY do we have suspicions in the first place? How about his relatives, including his paternal grandmother and aunts, who have NEVER BEEN TO AMERICA, who swear they were present for his birth?
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AmericanVet
, Bartlesville (7/29/2009 1:01:36 PM)
What are the facts:
#1)To be POTUS, he would have in his possession a 1961 Hawaiian Long Form Certificate of Birth that would include such fields of entry like Doctor's Name, Hospital of Birth.
#2) The Short Form currently displayed online by Obama is not the required Long Form and can not satisfy the requirment in #1.
#3) The Short Form as displayed by Obama, would not allow you to obtain a U.S. Passport.
#4) If you can not receive a Passport with that Short Form document, how can it qualify someone for the office of President of the United States?
It is such a simple request to have Obama show his Long Form Cerficate of Birth. I still have to ask myself the following questions:
1) Why the Fight to not allow it to be viewed?
2) If he is not willing to show it, what is the reason?
In conclusion, to display his Long Form Certificate of Birth is an easy task to do and displaying it would not cause him any harm. That is if he actually has a Long Form Certificate of Birth.
If you can not understand this logic, then there is absolutely no hope for you to be considered a sensible human being.
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just passing through
, (7/29/2009 1:01:38 PM)
Is there anyone here that was born on a US base outside of the US like McCain? I have know several people who were, and they were not automatically US citizens.
These people were born on US bases during the 1950's, and when they reached 18 they had to declare if they were US citizens or citizens of the country they were born in. If they did not declare for the US they were subject to the military draft of their birth country if it had one. If they did not decide for the US they were 'sent home'.
It really did not matter in the case of McCain's citizenship since he served in the military and qualified for citizenshhip under that set of laws. As far as him being a 'Natural Born US Citizen" he would have had to declare thta when he entered the military. Otherwise he would be a Panamainian.
Weird, is it not?
As far as President Carter turning over the Canal Zone to the country of Panama... Carter did not do that. It was done by a treaty that was decided on before Carter was born.
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just passing through
, (7/29/2009 1:07:19 PM)
AmericanVet...
You can get a Passport with the 'short form' BC. Contact the US State Dept, or just call the Post Office, and you can verify this. I think you also need two forms of photo ID and somewhere around 50 bucks.
For some people, whose original cert has been lost or destroyed by the agency entrusted to maintain it, the Cert of Live Birth is the only BC they can get.
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pete379drivin
, Broken Arrow (7/29/2009 1:15:15 PM)
you know...although I agree that Obama's birth is a non-issue (enough proof has surfaced to say for certain that he is in fact a US citizen) I do find it very amusing that the opponents of this issue call the 'birthers' everything from crazy to stupid, but when Bush was in office all of the outlandish BS that was spread around..much of it with no merit....was 'justified' Talk about a double standard! I think most of the 'birthers' tend to hold onto this 'non-issue' because it gives them some glimmer of hope that Obama will be forced from office so our country can begin to heal, as Obama has messed our country up worse than even Jimmy Carter could have ever dreamed of accomplishing. Many people voted for 'change'...I hope they are happy with the 'change' that their messiah brought them...I for one can't wait for his term to be over and someone who can really 'change' the direction of our country can take his place, I just hope that the damage he causes doesn't reach a point of no return prior to that day coming.
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