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To dream in America
Act would open avenues for young adults who are illegal immigrants

Nelly Rodriguez, 18, from Wichita, Kan., holds a sign during a rally in 2004 on Capitol Hill in Washington. Roughly 100 students, some facing deportation, staged a mock graduation ceremony on the lawn of the Capitol. They were urging passage of the "DREAM Act," a bill which would make it easier for undocumented immigrants to attend college in the United States and eventually become citizens. Lawrence Jackson/Associated Press file

 
By MIKE JONES Associate Editor
Published: 11/15/2009  2:26 AM
Last Modified: 11/15/2009  4:07 AM

News reports say that the country is in need of nurses and the shortage of nurses is likely to only get worse. A recent high school graduate in Broken Arrow had dreams of becoming a nurse but as of now her dream is not likely to be fulfilled. She is an illegal immigrant.

She didn't come across the border by choice. She came with her parents when she was very young. In many people's eyes this makes her a lawbreaker. She is one of the many who some people want to round up and ship back to Mexico.

But she is as American as the kid of Irish-English heritage who likely sat alongside her in school. She speaks fluent English. She made good grades in school. She hasn't broken a law since she was brought across the border. So, what's to come of her?

She says she is giving up her dream of becoming a nurse because she can't get a Social Security card or a driver's license because she is afraid of being deported. Deported from the only country she has known her entire life.

Hers is not an isolated case. Each year in the United States some 65,000 "illegal" students graduate high school. Some are class presidents, valedictorians and athletes. Many are average students but with lofty goals such as going to college. Most of them face the same choice: Take the chance of applying for a driver's license and Social Security card or a college loan and increase the chance of being deported.

It's a terrible choice to force on a young person.

The DREAM Act (the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act), introduced in Congress earlier this year, could make a big difference for these kids who face this terrible choice.

It would provide certain illegal immigrant students the opportunity to earn conditional permanent residency if they graduate from a U.S. high school, are of good moral character, arrived in the U.S. as children and have been in the country continuously for at least five years prior to the bill's enactment.

It would give those students temporary residency for a six-year period. Within that time, a qualified student must have "acquired a degree from an institution of higher education in the United States or have completed at least two years, in good standing, in a program for a bachelor's degree or higher degree in the United States" or have "served in the uniformed services for at least two years and, if discharged, have received an honorable discharge." The act further states that "any alien whose permanent resident status is terminated shall return to the immigration status the alien had immediately prior to receiving conditional permanent resident status under this act."

That sounds fair and puts some pretty tough requirements on the kids — much tougher than what is asked of natural born American students and tougher than the requirements for legal immigrant students.

Not every high school graduate wants to go to college. But the DREAM Act offers not only that chance, but also the avenue of military service. And it gives them a way to become legal.

There are those who will say that this act will force legal American students out of college because it will deny them loans that will go to the children of illegal immigrants. That, of course, is poppycock.

Each year about 200,000 Oklahoma high school graduates head off to college. Fewer than 300 are the children of illegal immigrants. The tuition and fees they pay into the system out-match the financial aid they receive by 2 to 1. And their grade points easily match or exceed the average.

About 3 million students graduate from U.S. high schools each year. Some go to college, some enter the workforce and some sign up for military duty. The children of illegal immigrants ought to be able to make the same choices.

The students affected by the DREAM Act have committed no crimes. Many only want to make a better life and to remain in what has become their home country, the United States. Most are patriotic. Many are good students who would make valuable contributions to society. Most want to earn a decent living and raise a family, in their country, the U.S.

Why would we want to isolate this small minority of our populace and deny them their dreams? The DREAM Act is a decent and moral attempt to do the right thing. It should not be passed by.


Mike Jones, 581-8332
mike.jones@tulsaworld.com www.tulsaworld.com/jonesblog
By MIKE JONES Associate Editor

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Thunder196, Tulsa (11/15/2009 5:32:02 AM)
How much money do you suppose was sucked out of the education fund while she got a free education on the back of legal tax payers for 12 years. She got 12 years of free education. Her parents are off the hook because?
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Now multiply that. $6,900 per pupil. How many illegals are attending our schools?
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Superintendent Ballard just announced, more cuts. Teachers? Supplies? Furlough days? Bigger class room size. Consolidation of schools? Discontinuing bus routes? Hiring freeze. Pay freeze. How much of this shortage is because we are giving free education to illegals. Now we owe them a college education.
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Respectfully, no we don't.
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droopy, wagoner (11/15/2009 6:48:53 AM)
Mike (aka God) Jones is back in true form. I almost thought he had forgotten the poor illegal aliens.
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Webmeister, Tulsa (11/15/2009 7:35:00 AM)
While our Supreme Court in its wisdom has stated that Illegal Alien children are entitled to a free, tax-payer provided education, their parents are entitled to be arrested and shipped back to their county of origin.

Pronto.

Then, the children of Illegals could continue their U.S. education as an orphan.

Or, voluntarily return home with Mama and Papa.

It would make it real easy if ICE simply reviewed the school records for the Illegals.......
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billy8, Sand Springs (11/15/2009 9:17:40 AM)
Why is it that in Europe, they don't have a problem with people from other countries working and going to school where they want? You never hear about the illegal aliens in France that came from Spain, or some other country. What do they do that is so much different than us?
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mr.peabody, country side oklahoma (11/15/2009 10:08:14 AM)
An honest "journalist" would have posed the obvious question, if this young lady doesn't want to try for a drivers license and a SS #, then you have to believe her folks are of the same mindset. So they have been either paying taxes through a false SS # or have not been paying taxes. Are they driving under a falsified drivers license if they have one?

Why would you require any more out of these students(children) than you would for any other body that wants to become a citzen? They shouldn't have to join the military or attend college!That's un-constitutional for a naturalized citizen. Sounds like something to try and sell the idea above it's actual merits.

If they are here, not under thier own velition, then they should be given a path same as any other immigrant, with a suspended period of residency until they can. Then they can fully enjoy the benifits of citizenship same as any other citizen thier age.
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mr.peabody, country side oklahoma (11/15/2009 10:19:26 AM)
with a suspended period of residency until they can..... meaning temporary residency not deportation.
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Billo, (11/15/2009 10:26:21 AM)
"Why is it that in Europe, they don't have a problem with people from other countries working and going to school where they want? You never hear about the illegal aliens in France that came from Spain, or some other country. What do they do that is so much different than us?"

There is a problem in Europe with their 'guest worker' programs, which is one proposal floating in this nation.

Guest workers enter on a worker visa and end up in ethnic enclaves. They never assimilate, and the natives resent the colonies in their midst.

We have a similar problem with the illegals, except they are here without any documentation at all. Ilegals aren't interested in assimilating for the obvious reason that they don't want to be discovered without papers.
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RLG3RD, Broken Arrow (11/15/2009 11:02:39 AM)
Sorry mike , She is not as "American" as the Irish kid who sat next to her if the Irish kid was born here.
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H_Harl, (11/15/2009 11:21:30 AM)
just more crying for ILLEGAL alliens. lots of american kids who'd like to go to college too.
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atheist, (11/15/2009 1:10:40 PM)
Shut up Mike,you make my stomach sick.
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Bville, (11/15/2009 2:36:15 PM)
LOL! Wow, only 12 comments. Guess people have finally chosen to just ignore this one trick pony.
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Mar, Tulsa (11/15/2009 2:52:25 PM)
I think Mike Jones needs to take up residence in Mexico and become a Mexican citizen. There are a lot of us that will show him the door.
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FUTURE WORLD, Tulsa (11/15/2009 3:06:17 PM)
There are so many million illegal Hispanics in the country. Many children of these illegals are now coming of age. Coming of age in the only country they have ever known. Coming of age with brothers and sisters who are US citizens through birth by illegal aliens. Coming of age with US roots as deep as any American. And so now these children of illegal parents have come of age, now what? Deport them to a country they have never known? We can do that, it's the law as it stands today. But what of the millions of deportees returned home having nothing but hatred and animosity towards our country. And what of the additional millions of legal Mexican citizens by virtue of birth, who also have nothing but hatred and animosity towards there fellow Americans because half there family has been forcibly deported. Now you can see why the RNC wants to pretend this problems doesn't exist. Because now there a 12 million new P'd off Hispanic voters who have now come of age in America and can now VOTE.
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J C OK, Tulsa County (11/15/2009 3:43:37 PM)
mr peabody------I like your way of thinking. Her parents should have thought about that when they were sneaking across the border.

I cannot get out my front door without someone jabbering Spanish instead of our official language, English.

Something needs to be done about education in our public schools. I do volunteer work in an elementary school and find over seventy percent of the students are Hispanic. The parents come to school and cannot speak English. We have to have someone who speaks Spanish there to aid them.
Our tax dollars are paying for these students education and they are not paying taxes, especially without a Social Security Number. Our TPS and other schools are hard up for money and yet we are allowing them to be her illegally.
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Thunder196, Tulsa (11/15/2009 3:52:56 PM)
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I have the papers where my mother-in-law became a US citizen. How do you suppose that happened. She came here legally and became a US citizen. My father-in-law did the same thing. They both came from Sweden legally and both learned English and became US citizens. My father-in-law THEN went to college and became a CPA, then was called to the ministry. He then became a minister.
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I am tired of people making excuses for the illegals. They created the problem by sneaking and lying, which means they had to steal to have a SS number to work. Try doing it the right way. Then no issues like this would be taking place.
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Life isn't always fair. Now the kids reap what their parents sowed.
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Moses, Jenks (11/15/2009 5:21:45 PM)
America is broke. We're printing money we can't afford to pay back.
The schools are cutting millions from their budgets.
We can't afford to take care of our citizen freeloaders let alone the illegal aliens who have crossed our borders without permission.
Sorry Mike, there's not any money left.
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my view, Sand Springs (11/15/2009 6:05:02 PM)
Billy8,

In Europe when they catch an illegal they are jailed and shipped back to their home country.

France marches them to the airport and places them on the a plane going to their homeland Little is said other than goodbye.

The United States had an open border policy for years when the country was being settled. That ended by an act of Congress in the 1920's.

Keep it up Mike you are one of the reason why your subscription numbers are falling.
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tfromtulsa, Tulsa (11/15/2009 6:22:37 PM)
If the U.S. is required to let illegals from Mexico attend our colleges and universities, then it's only fair to also require that illegals from China, India, Iran, Morocco, Brazil, Venezuela, North Korea, Syria, Libya, ..., (you fill in the blank) be able to attend them as well.

Here's a thought. Why don't illegals from Mexico attend college in Mexico?
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CEE, (11/15/2009 6:44:16 PM)
As long as a citizen can sponsor immigration for family members - other than his spouse and minor children, I will oppose the DREAM Act and any form of amnesty for those who are illegally in the country. When they stop "chain migration", I'll reconsider my opposition to these initiatives.
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Guzzi, (11/15/2009 11:24:08 PM)
If you mouth breathers can come up with a better solution than the DREAM act let's hear it. Jones is entitled to his opinion just like you are. These young adults are no more responsible for their parent's actions than you are. Granted, their parent's didn't come here the legal way but are here anyway. We will always have illegal's so we better come up with a solution to help those who want to contribute to society and be here legally. If you are worried about illegal's not paying taxes then you need to go after folks that are paid under the table, don't file income tax returns and the offshore bank accounts. Let's throw in the Bernie Madoff's of the world and the rest of the folks who try to get around the system. The DREAM act should be the least of our worries.
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52favoriteteacher, ex--Broken Arrow Tiger (11/16/2009 9:54:06 AM)
Illegals can do the right thing...

take the test and become a citizen!
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BettyRubble918, Tulsa (11/16/2009 10:20:05 AM)
The Dream Act is yet another piece-meal attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Mikey fails to mention that any "immigrant" that is naturalized is then entitled to bring in every relative to join the rest of the family; without any numerical limitations. It's called chain migration. Chain migration, bastardization of the 14th amendment and non-enforcement of EXISTING immigration laws are key factors that have exacerbated the invasion.

BTW- The 12-20 million # is a crock that has continued to be trumpeted by the open-border types since the early 1990's. The actual # is surely much higher.
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BettyRubble918, Tulsa (11/16/2009 12:55:13 PM)
Wonder if Mikey w/b lamenting any fallout for the open-borders's twits who assaulted anti-invasion Tea Partiers in Ft. Lauderdale, FLA this past Saturday????? See it on U-T for yourselves.
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Galilarm, Keys (11/18/2009 6:21:43 PM)
Let's keep those illegal aliens out of nursing please! The contract nurses coming out of the phillipines and indonesia are bad enough. It has taken my RN CCRN MSN over twenty years of study and experince to finally earn over 100K a year. Why not just out sorce the patients to China if that's the kind of health care you are looking for
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zTruth, Tulsa (11/18/2009 6:48:09 PM)
The last time Congress tried to pass this citizens flooded Congress with phone calls and letters. It stopped it.
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