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Veterans win
Coburn drops hold on important bill
 
By World's Editorial Writers
Published: 11/21/2009  2:27 AM
Last Modified: 11/21/2009  4:57 AM

Finally, Oklahoma's unapologetic Sen. Tom Coburn released his hold on the important benefits bill for veterans.

The state's junior Republican senator had stalled the measure, insisting that cuts be made in funding to the United Nations to pay for the costs, which he placed at $3.7 billion over five years.

The U.N. is and always has been an easy target. It is a bureaucratic mess and makes blunders, such as placing Iran on the human rights commission, that are embarrassing and often foolish. It is, however, a major peacekeeping force and provides some important work worldwide.

Coburn's amendment was soundly defeated, and then the veterans measure passed unanimously.

The bill would provide a stipend, counseling and other benefits to caregivers for severely wounded veterans as well as ensure equal access to female veterans and expand service to veterans in rural areas.

"I apologize to no one for putting a hold on the bill," Coburn said, adding that veterans' grandchildren should not be forced to pay the debt for their care.

Well, here's a flash for you senator: Our grandchildren are going to be paying to run the government just as the grandchildren of the Great Depression did and their grandchildren before them. That's how we have things such as highways, a military, Social Security, Medicare and so forth.

It's easy to make that charge, but it simply doesn't make sense. The U.S. government has not and will never be a pay-as-you-go system. To say it will and should be is a fairy tale.

This bill, backed by various veterans groups, will help many veterans. It is targeted, for now, for veterans of recent wars. But the fact is that with the technology available to doctors today, more soldiers are being saved but more are coming home with devastating, life-changing injuries.

This bill will help them and their families. It deserved to pass and it did, despite Coburn's theatrics.
By World's Editorial Writers

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Phil Tower, (11/21/2009 5:58:47 AM)
Boy howdy!

One can really feel the steam issuing from this editorial staff production.

I can see it geysering now from the World's rooftop as dawn breaks across the Tulsa skyline.
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JustCurious, Broken Arrow (11/21/2009 8:41:06 AM)
This only serves to reaffirm that Coburn needs to go find something else to do. When you are doing something....anything....for a period of time and you suck at it.....GO find something else to do that you CAN be good at performing! How hard is that??? There is not a senate or house rep in this state that has done a decent job in 10 years!
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jett rink, (11/21/2009 8:42:41 AM)
And how many times has the Tulsa World endorsed Dr. Deacon the Dictator when he's up for re-election? Each and every time, I believe...
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Willard_Roker, (11/21/2009 8:57:00 AM)
Money, money, money, right-winger are obsessed with money. They don't seem to care about anything but money. They want Capitalism to replace Democracy as our form of government.

Greed is the root of all evil.
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darchilds, (11/21/2009 10:06:08 AM)
Pay as you go is a fairy tale? Have you lost your mind? In a time of war deficit spending is an option but otherwise deficit spending is an obamanation (pun intended). When this country comes to the point that we are always going to be a debtor nation, especially the debts we are running now, we will become a banana republic and we are doomed.
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darchilds, (11/21/2009 10:07:48 AM)
How is wanting to avoid deficit spending greed. The world has become upside down. Just spend us into oblivion.
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jbo, (11/21/2009 11:27:12 AM)
"...as the grandchildren of the Great Depression did and their grandchildren before them." Maybe it's just me, but shouldn't it be "...their grandchildren after them" or "...their grandparents before them"? In either case, it demonstrates a very ignorant and, quite frankly, perverted mindset on the part of the Tulsa World Editorial Board.

News flash for the Tulsa World: It essentially was FDR's Socializing of America, a.k.a. The New Deal, and the creation of the Social Security ponzi scheme which initiated the massive debt the Socialists, a.k.a. liberal Democrats, have piled on us, our children, our grandchildren and are now seeking to strap our great-grandchildren with! The federal government was much, much smaller and constrained in the years preceding.

News Flash for the Tulsa World: The growth of government social programs by FDR's administration did not stop the Great Depression, but prolonged it. So is that what you are after, an even more prolonged Great Recession for us now? When will the madness end? The government is not the cure, it is the problem!

News Flash for the Tulsa World: Gross, incompetent, wasteful spending is bad in any generation. Any effort to curb the irresponsible efforts to squander taxpayers dollars should be applauded.

Coburn is simply trying to decrease the burden you so selfishly wish to place on the generations to come. The real "crime" here is that in order to try "wake up" the Dem's who are in total control of everything at this point, Coburn had to use something as worthy as Veterans benefits.
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my view, Sand Springs (11/21/2009 1:54:16 PM)
Smoke and mirrors that what the TW is good at.

They are correct our grandchildren are going to pay for government just like the children of the great depression are doing.

The major difference is our grandchildren are going to pay a greater share of their income to pay for the bloated government we are creating today. By taking more of their income to pay for services it will reduce the standard of living of future generation.

That's what Senator Coburn was refering too. You can leave it to the TW to print a dishonest editoral.
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Michael Phillips, Tulsa (11/22/2009 7:56:35 AM)
I don't like relying on one individual to do the right thing, but in the present climate of spend, spend, spend, it seems that Tom Coburn is the only one who can be depended on to attempt to control spending. It would seem to me that $38,927 would be enough debt for my grandchildren to be saddled with, but apparently the Tulsa World wants more to be added.
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Democrat, Tulsa County (11/22/2009 8:03:18 AM)
Phillips:

Why are you running away. You accused me of lying on that other thread and I produced the evidence that proves that you didn't know what you were talking about. Don't get into other people's disagreement in ignorance of the truth, pop-off, and then run away.

Coburn is an embarrassment. He covers-up the sexual wrong-doings of his C-Street buddies. He holds up bills such as the one to fund medical treatment for our military heroes because we don't pay for the treatment by cutting spending elsewhere. But he supports huge payments for an unnecessary and counter-productive war in Iraq without finding the money to pay for it. Coburn is harmful to this nation.
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Democrat, Tulsa County (11/22/2009 8:30:05 AM)
Phillips was shamed into coming back to the other thread to face the music for his latest dishonest post. As usual, he lamely attempted to dodge his responsibility for "misunderstanding" my comment.

Notice that Phillips has chosen now to not come back and defend Coburn's record of covering up the behavior of his buddies and his hypocrisy of demanding that we find the money to pay for the $3.7 billion health care needs of our heroes while he NEVER demanded that we find the $700 billion (so far) needed to fund the war that caused so many of our heroes to need health care services.
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RDUN, (11/22/2009 12:42:27 PM)
The Tulsa World is to be congratulated for publicizing Coburn's silly hold on this legislation. Putting it out in the open surely put pressure on him to change his stand. This is one more example of his wrong-headed posturing. For those of you who think he is preventing wasteful spending, I'd appreciate hearing three examples of him reducing government spending. I don't know of any. He tries, but he doesn't accomplish anything. And that's because he takes these outlandish, solitary actions that infuriate his colleagues. For Tom Coburn, it's not "How to Win Friends and Influence People", it's "How to Alienate Everyone and Accomplish Nothing".
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WhoseLeft, Tulsa (11/22/2009 8:08:47 PM)
The Tulsa World is right to remind us of this outrage. Coburn is only grandstanding. He fails to represent veterans and their families. He fails to represent the real needs of Oklahomans. He fails to comprehend the real needs of this state. He acts as the conduit of large cash payments to the family of his CStreet buddy's mistress and employee and then lies about it.

Coburn should get honest and admit who and what he represents. The Family is a cult and an unholy one at that.
 

 
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