Alan Shore, (8/24/2009 6:18:23 AM)

Hell's Angels - Corporate chapter.

marlin, (8/24/2009 6:20:49 AM)

I have no problem with the majority of motorcycle riders. My problem comes with a group of them that likes to annoy people while dressing up like the Village People.

olddude, tulsa (8/24/2009 6:44:04 AM)

A large group dressed like quote village people, welcome home soldiers from the war in Iraq,and they don't seem to mind our dress,what are you doing to show them your support?

florence, tulsa (8/24/2009 6:53:12 AM)

RE: Noise; the noise, which isn't so bad, helps otherwise inattentive, self-consumed or just unaware auto drivers know there is a bike in the area. As to dress, I find biker dress much less offensive than American Flag cowboys shirts and fifty something housewife moms trying to look like teenage their daughters.
It takes a lot of money to own and maintain a bike, it's called committment.
I'd rather behind a bike or group of riders than a south tulsa matron in a landbarge, I know the bikers know what they're doing.

FromTheHeart, (8/24/2009 7:13:55 AM)

just don't go near brookside with a sleeping baby or they will wake up cranky. theres really no need for the level of noise these bikes make. just a bunch of boys trying to "one up" each other with who can be the loudest.

FromTheHeart, (8/24/2009 7:14:13 AM)

but...they have just as much right to be there as anyone.

rogerq, Pyeongtaek, South Korea (8/24/2009 7:34:56 AM)

Bev seems to have a bit of a self entitlement attitude. She's right in one aspect, if you're a patron and you don't like the noise go somewhere else. But it is still against the law to modify your exhaust to make it louder. And what about the people who live there who moved in before the bikers took over, don't they have the right not to be disturbed by noise in their own homes by illegally modified bikes?
what happened to consideration of others. You're a guest in their neighborhood, maybe you should find a place to hang out where people don't live.

Eagle 4, Tulsa (8/24/2009 7:44:00 AM)

What's that, Bev? I can't hear you over the VROOM VROOM!

rogerq, Pyeongtaek, South Korea (8/24/2009 7:48:06 AM)

Riding is a privilege not a right, just like driving a car.

Hijinx, (8/24/2009 7:51:38 AM)

Good letter Bev. Old folks just do what they always do, complain.

Middle Ground, (8/24/2009 8:20:05 AM)

Your loud exhaust is for safety? I guess the invisible helmet is safe too. I am a Brookside resident and do not mind motorcycles for the most part. It's the idiots that think every stoplight is a new drag race that bother me, and there are just as many of those types driving cars. Don't claim loud exhaust is for safety as you hop of a motorcycle in shorts and sandles. Just admit that you are trying to look cool. Until everyone wears helmets there is no point trying to justify anything is for safety.

Angry Citizen!, Bluejacket (8/24/2009 8:46:42 AM)

Sure, loud pipes save lives. Unfortunately the city ordinance down there in tulsa carries a huge fine for loud pipes, more than an opened container of alcohol or a public drunk citation even. But bikes are scary to those brookside yuppies, and sushi just doesn't taste as good when you can hear an American made hog thundering down the road.

TheFoundOgle, Mid-town (8/24/2009 8:54:31 AM)

marlin, you just made me snort coffee out my nose with that zinger! Thanks!

again, my biggest beef is with the "fart-tubes" on the little ghetto cruisers (e.g. 1994 Honda Civic). Give me a break!

JDAM77, Cleveland, OH; formerly Tulsa (8/24/2009 9:11:34 AM)

Toys for Tots, Muscular Distrophy ride, Veteran funeral escorts (Rolling Thunder); American muscle...the louder the better.

jimdad, (8/24/2009 9:24:00 AM)

None of this matters when you are breaking the law.
It is illegal to operate loud or unmuffled vehicles in Town...period!! Grow up folks and be responsible for your own actions.

staggerwing, tulsa (8/24/2009 9:24:31 AM)

Do all of the people with loud motorcycles live in Brookside? If not, how do they get there? What about the people who live in their neighborhoods and along the major streets. If people do not like loud noise should they just move? Move where? Is there a place where excessively loud cars and motorcycles are not allowed to go? I actually, silly me, thought that that was all of Tulsa.
I enjoy outdoor dinning, but I do not go to Brookside because of the noise factor.
This whole problem could be solved with a little enforcement.

cobweb, (8/24/2009 9:43:46 AM)

Enforce the laws already on the books against this nonsense. Bev is an idiot, but what do you expect from a group of pathetic, aging yuppies. Fat chicks in leathers flashing their breasts and dentists with pony tails and tattoos who have their bikes shipped to Sturgis are as ridiculous as they look. Grow the F up!

Proud Liberal, Weatherford (8/24/2009 10:07:33 AM)

Yaki,
For once we are in 100% agreement (mark this date).

I am a motorcyclist (but not a Harley rider) with TWO quiet motorcycles. I spend lots more time riding them than washing them.

Subwoofer noise is annoying. The problem is trying to find out which car it is. Bass frequencies are somewhat non-directional, and it makes it difficult to find the offenders. Another issue is that cops have no objective way to measure how loud it is. I was waiting for a friend near a busy intersection in OKC last weekend and there seemed to be a (too loud) subwoofer in at least one of every group of cars at the intersection.

davfromm, (8/24/2009 10:58:50 AM)

marlin, (8/24/2009 6:20:49 AM): “I have no problem with the majority of motorcycle riders. My problem comes with a group of them that likes to annoy people while dressing up like the Village People."

We recently had a member of this obnoxious tribe move into the neighborhood. This goober delights in generating hours of deafening racket from his garage for the enjoyment of everybody within a radius of a mile or so.

It is rather disturbing and creepy to see this overweight couple (way WAY past their prime) dressed in these fetishist leather costumes, precariously balanced and undulating down the street aboard this garishly painted 2-wheeled smoke-belching circus wagon. It's one thing to harbor these psycho-sexual fantasies behind closed doors, it's quite another to act them out in public. When I was a kid, the elderly used to try to set a good example to children by behaving in a modest and dignified manner.

I'm thinking of moving, perhaps to a neighborhood near the runway lanes at the airport, to get a little peace and quiet.

Another TPS parent, (8/24/2009 11:45:37 AM)

Drivers who alter the exhaust of their vehicles have no respect for other people or the law!

taz72176, (8/24/2009 12:53:21 PM)

I just love it when people who know absolutely nothing about the biker community try to dictate what we should or shouldn't do.

davfromm, (8/24/2009 1:23:20 PM)

taz72176, (8/24/2009 12:53:21 PM): "I just love it when people who know absolutely nothing about the biker community try to dictate what we should or shouldn't do."

The decent citizens community just called and said, "Put some clothes on grandma, and fix your muffler!".

M_Sizzle, Tulsa (8/24/2009 1:39:46 PM)

I'm glad you liked my letter, Bev.

Once again we have another idiot who thinks they are "cool" for rumbling around town with loud mufflers. You bikers need to learn how to respect society.

Bev, you are a selfish bike rider with no brains. I could care or less if a doctor or a lawyer is riding a loud bike. If does not matter what you do for a living, what matters is YOU are breaking the law and YOU are a nuisance to society. Brookside is not for loud bikes. It's a social community with bars and restaurants. Every bike rider has a right to hit up brookside, however you idiots with the loud mufflers need to stay away. You people are fools if you think what you are doing is "cool". Take your loud bike and shove it.

taz72176, (8/24/2009 1:52:10 PM)

Davfromm...A) I'm not a grandma (I'm not even a mom), B) I never leave the house without being fully clothed (I do have a sense of decency), and C) my muffler works just fine.

ttr1975, Sand Springs (8/24/2009 2:00:20 PM)

Myself as a motorcycle rider would personally like to be able to enjoy my Harley without having to watch car drivers are texting away on their cell phones and swerving all over the road. I would also like to see car drivers pay 100% attention to the road rather than apply makeup, read the newspaper, or sort out the world's financial difficulties. I feel that these folks are more of a nuisance to society than folks that ride motorcycles that can be heard. Yes, there are those people that take the loudness to the extreme, and there those that don't. Give me a few minutes and I'm sure I can find something about a "complainer" that I don't like.

I find it offensive that individuals who ride motorcycles are assumed to be stupid, illiterate, gangsters, outlaws, or a menace to society. Bev is right - motorcycle riders come from all walks of life. Wake up.

Loud pipes save lives.