quixote, Tulsa (11/23/2009 8:09:42 AM)

Scientists suggest that the advent of cooking led to healthier food which, in turn, led to bigger brains. This man has eaten only raw food for 4 years, and . . . well, here we have pumpkin pie without any pumpkin. Might be time to light the fire.

Two Cents, (11/23/2009 9:16:53 AM)

What nonsense.
Pumpkin Pie without pumpkin??? Why not call it cashew pie or carrot juice pie?

Cranberries are "live" because they are served 15 minutes after cooking? Pass the "live gravy" and the "live rolls" along with the real turkey and real pumpkin pie.

yep, Tulsa County (11/23/2009 9:24:36 AM)

Reading that recipe, I don't see that it's any 'healthier' than a reduced fat pie made with real pumpkin. Those worried about cholesterol levels would probably be concerned with the saturated fat levels and the large volume of calorie-dense cashews and coconut oil. Agave nectar is a fancy name for sugar syrup. Healthy? Not in my book. It contains a few trace level biologicals (it's processed by heating to only 118 deg to appeal to the raw foodies) but it's over 92% fructose. You can read plenty about fructose, and it's just as bad for you as sucrose (processed white table sugar).

true2form, Grand Lake (11/23/2009 9:27:18 AM)

Grab your copy of Euell Gibbons' "Handbook of Edible Wild Plants", tie on a bib and head for the woods!

Grazing. It's what's for dinner!

FIRE GUNDY, TULSA (11/23/2009 10:48:11 AM)

Five words:

kill it and grill it

messy, tulsa (11/23/2009 10:59:54 AM)

Did you see the article last week about Oklahoma being the second unhealthiest state and fifth fattest? I think the TW is trying to drop hints that some of you all need to do something different...if only so we don't have to keep subsidizing health insurance for all the "food lovers".

Two Cents, (11/23/2009 11:16:17 AM)

Messy..What will you be eating for Thanksgiving?

The TW's job is to print the news..nothing more.

What makes you the food police?

LocalBoy, B.A. (11/23/2009 11:27:26 AM)

I have eaten at Pure Cafe. The food is amazingly flavorful and refreshingly different. While I really enjoyed it, I haven't given up on grilled steaks, beef fajitas, etc. but I am trying to shift my diet toward the healthier end of the spectrum.

messy, tulsa (11/23/2009 11:35:31 AM)

1. I will be eating turkey, mashed potatoes, and all the rest. I'll probably have a couple slices of pie too. And it will all be cooked.

I will also use the extra time off work to get outside and do some exercise. Maybe go for a walk or ride my bike.

You can do these things when you don't smoke, drink tons of crappy 3.2 beer, or let yourself blow-up to Mangino sized proportions.

Just saying...Oklahoma needs to shape the heck up. With all the talk about health care mixed with holiday eating binges, maybe now's a good time to drive this point home.

2. If you notice, this article is in the "Scene" section. The TW dropping hints comment was a joke, but newspapers do publish lots of things that aren't "news". Like, Life/Entertainment fluf, editorials, and sports. So there.

cosmo, TULSA (11/23/2009 11:46:33 AM)

I think I'll pass on the carrot juice pie but
at least after reading this I think I'll eat on the lite side for the next three days because on Thanksgiving I'm going with a traditional meal and yes my pie will have real pumpkin in it...and will probably have some of that white creamy suff on top to.

Think, (11/23/2009 11:49:25 AM)

Their pies sell for $68, their pizza sells for $75.

Think, (11/23/2009 11:50:23 AM)

Who can afford it?

Ronald Landry, (11/23/2009 12:28:45 PM)

Hi everyone, quite interesting comments on the article so far.

I welcome everyone's correspondance,

Cynthia Beavers(owner of Pure Cafe) passion is to share her amazing cuisine with everyone in Tulsa and nationally through her shipping business.

Please stop by the cafe wether you are into "veganism" or you are a strong advocate of the traditional Turkey dinner.
The desire here is to have a healthy and satisfying place to come and feel really great afterwards.

It is not our goal to convert you to a healthier lifestyle. We are not here to question your choices of eating in any fashion.

The cost factor of the food is directly related to the amount of labor and the cost of the organic ingredients that go into each pie and entree.

About the Non-Pumkin Pie Recipe,, again stop by the cafe and try a piece for yourself. "It is the best Pumpkin Pie I have ever had."

My personal diet is just that,, my choice. I do not believe that my way of eating is for everyone, I believe that we are omnivores and that we adapt to whatever we consume in time. That is what is so amazing about our human anatomy.

For further conversation please visit the Cafe anytime.

Tulsa Song, Tulsa (11/23/2009 1:16:01 PM)

Personally, I think the raw food way is great. It is the way God started us (mankind) out, but with the fall of mankind we blew it, with the "it" including our health. And all over something that might have resembled an apple. It was not really a fruit or a veggie that led us to evil but it was certainly in the mix. Selah. It is really the condition of our hearts that matters. The Word of God is the bread of life. That Word is Jesus.

I know this "commercial" was unsolicited but there is somebody out there in reader land that needs to be reminded of ... all the above.

Along with the Thanksgiving meal -- please give thanks to the One who gives life.

LocalBoy, B.A. (11/23/2009 1:23:48 PM)

To the naysayers:
Don't knock it until you have tried it. You can see their menu online. The cafe prices are much less than the numbers quoted above.

The soups are served in large portions and are amazingly fresh and flavorful. You have to try them to appreciate them.

I have not tried everything on their menu but the items other than the soups are generally unique, very flavorful and healthy. I would describe them as being "vivid" in both flavor and appearance.

The atmosphere is very calm and relaxed and they do not push any kind of vegan lifestyle or anything like that. I find them to be friendly, casual people who are passionate about their products and love to provide an enjoyable dining experience.

So give it a try before you make fun of it.

oolabelle, Tulsa (11/23/2009 1:29:59 PM)

This sounds like a place I would like to check out. I am not a vegan or vegetarian but I do enjoy trying new things and keeping an open mind. Getting a healthy meal is a bonus.

Jen, (11/23/2009 3:16:30 PM)

ok, i am SO making that pie! Sounds fabulous, and thanks much for sharing the recipe.
Personally, I am delighted to have a raw food restaurant in town - I love to try new foods out, but as a vegetarian, living in OK, my choices are limited. See you there :)

Mar, Tulsa (11/23/2009 7:23:23 PM)

So I take it a raw food restaurant doesn't have stoves or ovens.

Isn't raw food like a lettuce salad with other raw veggies? What is so new and different about that?

We will have our traditional Thanksgiving feast. Pumpkin pie, cheesecake, chocolate cake, oh and turkey, stuffing, potatoes, etc. etc. :-)

nursefind, Tulsa (11/23/2009 9:34:35 PM)

I have been a vegetarian (I don't eat meat, chicken, fish, eggs or dairy) for a little over a year. I eat vegetables, fruits, grains, legumes, nuts and whole wheat sprouted bread. I don't eat any type of oil or fat either. I have lost almost 100 pounds while eating this way. As good as I feel now - I wish I would have eaten this way my whole life.

One thing I have noticed is that people that are not vegan/vegetarian seem overly preoccupied with my diet - like wondering if I'm getting enough protein and don't I miss meat.

Try going vegan for three to four weeks. I can guarantee you that you will lose the taste for fat and animal products. Go ahead try it. What have you got to lose? Are you scared?

yep, Tulsa County (11/23/2009 9:56:50 PM)

I'm not enamoured with the replacement of a good vegetable (pumpkin) with cashews and coconut oils, nor does using all that sugar (masquerading as healthy by calling itself agave nectar) appeal to me. But aside from this type of recipe, I think eating a raw diet has a number of great aspects. In response to someone's comment, yes much of it is fresh vegetables, nuts, etc...Some foods can be cooked at low temperatures. For example I cook oatmeal with warm water. I actually like the more firm texture too. Some raw food fans like to create foods which mimic cooked. I've had a great pie crust made from ground almonds. There are many raw recipes for 'faux' cooked food on the internet, and at least one group in town that has occasional presentations on learning how to eat raw (and a potluck!). I don't eat much meat, and sometimes go a month or so without any. I eat a raw food diet part-time, and in general have gotten where I cook foods less when possible. I agree with what 'nursefind' says about feeling better. If I eat a lean chicken breast I'm good, but if I eat a burger or something like that, I feel lethargic or weighted down for a day. Congrats 'nursefind' on your great progress, and successful change of lifestyle. I plan to go to Pure when I get a chance.

Dr. Strangelove, Las Vegas (11/24/2009 7:28:19 AM)

I must say I would try a vegetarian lifestyle if I didn't like cooking meat so much. Nothing like starting a fire, throwing on some soaked apple wood, and smoking some ribs or a nice big piece of pork shoulder. Any substitute for that?

AmandaSMark, (1/7/2010 2:49:20 AM)

Is this the same Ron Landry (if you look at court documents in Fort Collins Colorado) that abandon his small child at a daycare and now has a restraining/protective order against him?

Is this the same Pure Cafe owner that ran up a 13,000$ Fed Ex bill in the name of Carol Alt and French Silk so that it wouldnt go on her credit and then switched to UPS so she could continue to ship her food?

I think it is but I just wanted to check on my facts and documentation..

Ronald Landry, (1/23/2010 12:11:08 AM)

Comment Posted on 1/7/10,,,,

This is the same Ron Landry & I did not abandon my child. You are simply an idiot posting things you know nothing about. I pray for you daily for healing!!