seymore1965, Tulsa (11/22/2009 6:25:48 AM)

Ryan Broyles celebrating a touchdown is something to celebrate. If not for him, OU would have no touchdowns at all. If Bob Stoops thinks a touchdown is silly, he ought to find another job.

AtlantaSooner, Atlanta (11/22/2009 10:26:44 AM)

Celebrating when you're down as much as we were at the time is silly as it gets. That's one touchdown when we're down that much, and you think it is something to celebrate? How about we keep Stoops and you resign as a fan?

soonerinhell, Irving (11/22/2009 1:23:12 PM)

This game has been coming all season. This defense has lived off of turnovers. It has not been a defense that stuffed people with talent all year. When the game was put in the defense's hands against BYU, Miami and Texas, they couldn't close the deal because they couldn't stop the run. Statistics are for those that need them to prove how well they did without actually winning. This offense was going to struggle because they have run off too many offensive linemen to have any real competition to play. The ones that did stay have gotten progressively worse rather than better in their tenure at OU. Sam Bradford got hurt because the OL couldn't run block well enough to make the run a threat to any of the defenses they faced. If your only viable option is a QB throwing, you are going to turn LBs and Safeties lose on blitzes and get your QB killed eventually. It just happened to Sam earlier than anyone wanted. Thank God he made the right decision and didn't try to come back after the UT game. As for the TE loss of Gresham, if you are going to make TE a feature part of your offense, you better recruit TE's that can play if your stud goes down. Obviously, OU didn't. Some of that I lay on OU's propensity to keep its starters on the field the entire game even when the decision if not in doubt. No good player, much less great one, is going to come sit on the sidelines or play just special teams for two or three years while your stud plays every down of every game. Obviously, the three TE's that OU have are not even as much of a threat as the pitiful group that Texas has put on the field the past two years. That is recruiting which is a part of coaching. Finally, the cracks in the dam were apparent last year with the special teams meltdowns. Great teams with pride and discipline don't play that poorly on special teams all year long. This team hasn't been listening to this coaching staff for a while, and yesterday's performance was just the final fruit of a team that doesn't have a reason to listen to their coaches. Penalties and mental mistakes are the hallmark of this year's team, but they have done this for a few years in a more limited way. Leaders on this team seem non-existent as to pulling slackers into line. At some point, this game was bound to happen with a team that just doesn't care to get better. I know that the OU faithful don't want to hear that their team is not perfect, but the facts are that this team is not perfect. The problem now is can you get these guys to snap their heads around and practice and play with the same discipline of other D1 football teams. This team lost to some very average teams with much less talent than OU has. That should be the warning flag of all warning flags to these players and coaches. Barry Switzer knew that you don't play with fire every game. However, he had the talent to play without emotion and beat 1/2 or more of the teams on his schedule. This OU team has lost so much discipline that they can't even do that. I know people around OU don't like to remember it, but when you are in a MNC game and you quit as OU did against USC, something is wrong with your team's psyche. It just got overlooked because it was USC and people thought it was just superior talent that night. Now we know it isn't superior talent. It happened last night with one of Tech's weakest teams in years. Sorry, but OU will have to earn their reputation next year. It should be revelatory when OU plays OSU at home. I fear that if thing don't go well, not just if things don't go well, with the offense early, we will see the same effort again. This team is very fragile and seems by their post-game comments to not believe that they have anything or anyone to build their hopes on.

ManinRed, (11/22/2009 10:23:54 PM)

soonerinhell, your points are right on. The Gresham issue is very insightful. I am perplexed that OU's offensive line last year, replete with Seniors, stayed in every game to the bitter end so we could establish the 60 point consecutive record. We should have been playing our reserves and getting them valuable experience. Yesterday we had our first team defense in the game at the very end when we were getting blow out. Why not just play some reserves and find out if there's a gamer waiting in the wings. And the discipline issue is remarkable. Some is inexperience, but alot of inexperience derives from lack of playing time.