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Unraveling the Big 12 South

Mack Brown's Texas squad lost to Texas Tech, giving life to both OU and OSU in the race for the South championship. MIKE SIMONS/Tulsa World

 
By MIKE STRAIN WORLD SPORTS EDITOR
Published: 11/3/2008  2:14 AM
Last Modified: 11/3/2008  3:15 AM

OKLAHOMA AND OKLAHOMA STATE have a chance to win the Big 12 South. And it's possible that the Bedlam game Nov. 29 could determine a berth in the Big 12 championship.

But both OU and OSU have two games left before Bedlam, and the Big 12 race could turn into a wild scramble. If the Sooners or Cowboys win their final three games, they would claim at least a share of the South title. Would they receive a berth in the Big 12 championship? Maybe.

If Texas loses once, then OU and OSU would control their own destinies: Win three, and go to the Big 12 championship. But if Texas wins out, the South champion could be decided by the fifth tiebreaker — BCS standings.

A myriad of scenarios exist, and some are complicated; but they share a common theme for OU and OSU. Both need to win all three games to have a real shot. Here's a look at how the race stacks up heading into the final weeks of the season:



Texas Tech (9-0 overall, 5-0 Big 12, No. 2 BCS standings)



Easy path: Win final three games and finish season undefeated.

Complicated path: Lose to either OU or OSU. Finish in a three-way tie for South title at 7-1, with Texas and either OU or OSU. Tiebreaker would be the highest ranked team in BCS standings. Tech might be in trouble in this tiebreaker, because Tech would have a late-season loss to either OU or OSU.

Remaining schedule: Saturday vs. OSU; Nov. 22 at OU; Nov. 29 vs. Baylor.



Oklahoma (8-1 overall, 4-1 Big 12, No. 6 BCS)



Easy path: Win final three games, and Texas loses one of its final three. In this scenario, OU would either win the South outright or would own a head-to-head tiebreaker with Texas Tech.

Complicated path: Win final three games and finish in three-way tie at 7-1 with Texas and Texas Tech. Tiebreaker would be BCS standings, and OU might have a good chance because of a late-season win streak that included two games against highly ranked opponents.

OU fans rooting for: A Texas loss. If no Texas loss, then Texas Tech winning every game except in Norman.

Remaining schedule: Saturday at Texas A&M; Nov. 22 vs. Texas Tech; Nov. 29 at OSU.



Oklahoma State (8-1 overall, 4-1 Big 12, No. 9 BCS)



Easy path: Win final three games, and Texas loses one of its final three. In this scenario, OSU would either win the South outright or would own a head-to-head tiebreaker with Texas Tech.

Complicated path: Win final three games and finish in three-way tie at 7-1 with Texas and Texas Tech. Tiebreaker would be BCS standings, and OSU might have a good chance because of a late-season win streak that included two games against highly ranked opponents.

OSU fans rooting for: A Texas loss. If no Texas loss, then Texas Tech winning every game except this week.

Remaining schedule: Saturday at Texas Tech; Nov. 15 at Colorado; Nov. 29 vs. Oklahoma.



Texas (8-1 overall, 4-1 Big 12, No. 4 BCS)



Easy path: Win final three games and hope Texas Tech loses twice. Longhorns would own tiebreaker advantage against teams besides Tech.

Complicated path: Longhorns win all their games, and Texas Tech loses once. Texas' only hope would be a three-way tie at 7-1 with Tech and either Oklahoma or Oklahoma State. Tiebreaker would be BCS standings, and Texas might be in trouble, because either OU or OSU could finish the season on a big win streak, including triumphs over two highly ranked foes.

Remaining schedule: Saturday vs. Baylor; Nov. 15 at Kansas; Nov. 27 vs. Texas A&M.



Big 12 Tiebreakers



If two teams are tied, the head-to-head matchup determines division champ. If three are tied, the following is used:

1) The records of the three teams will be compared against each other (head-to-head competition among three teams.)

2) The records of the three teams will be compared within their division.

3) The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6).

4) The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents.

5) The highest team in the first Bowl Championship Series standings following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative.

6) The team with the best overall winning percentage (excluding exempted games) shall be the representative.

7) The representative will be chosen by draw.
By MIKE STRAIN WORLD SPORTS EDITOR

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5055567475852000, Euless (11/3/2008 6:36:34 AM)
Taking my Crimson glasses off, afraid that Texas won't lose again. OU will lose to either osu or the sand aggies (given their pathetic defense), and end up in the Holiday Bowl.
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lovethemsooners, Fayetteville (11/3/2008 7:19:21 AM)
I don't think Texas will lose again either, and the OSU game is going to be a tough one. I do think we'll take care of business in the Tech game.......fortunately we have it in Norman!
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ndn, (11/3/2008 7:24:53 AM)
No matter what happens, the Big 12 is on top again in college football. The best two teams in the Big 12 South should be the ones playing for a championship berth, not any teams from the North. I wonder what the chances of them eliminating the North/South deal in the future? We are guaranteed to see some great football over the next several weeks.

GO POKES!!
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DrG, tulsa (11/3/2008 9:48:26 AM)
Best scenario for either OU or OSU is just win your final three games and take your BCS birth which will surely come. It might be better not play in the Big 12 championship game. The teams above both teams have a good chance to lose except for Penn State. Texas is wounded right now with injuries and has to beat Kansas at KU where they are a different team than on the road.

It will come down to Bedlam for the BCS birth assuming both teams beat TTech. A one loss Big 12 team is a shew in for a BCS birth.
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shytnik, Colorado Springs (11/3/2008 11:47:57 AM)
OU just needs to concentrate on each game one at a time and win out. Everything else is out of their hands. That being said, Tech has some favorable match ups against our secondary, their defense is much improved and we've had our struggles against Tech. But being mad about a few contraversial losses in the past few years and being at home might be enough to get us past Tech, but certainly no guarantees. They did take care of Texas which we couldn't do. If we manage that one, we follow up a very tough game at OK State the very next week, and OSU has certainly given OU plenty of trouble lately. It's doable, but will not be easy at all.

DrG may be right in one aspect, while I would love another Big XII championship, especially in a year we can call them the best league in the country, the extra week may be what OU needs to get them ready for a big bowl game. On the other hand, Alabama will lose and winning the Big XII may get them into the NC game against Penn State and that would definitely be worth it.
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thinksmart 1st, sand springs (11/3/2008 2:26:03 PM)
OSU gave TEXAS all but the kitchen sink only to end up mismanaging the last 4 min. of the game oddly enough TEXAS TECH beat TEXAS by managing the last 4 min. of the game. OSU has a slim chance of winning at TEXAS TECH but all it takes is one point to win and OSU defense as strong as they are can create that one point difference in the last 4 minutes of the game.
OU will have to show they are the team to beat TEXAS A&M could be asleep one weekend and suprise you the next. OU can play a fair game against TEXAS A&M as long as they are asleep and OU vs OSU this year will be the game to watch for Oklahoma fans this year OSU is a match team for OU. just like TEXAS has become the team to beat in the BIG 12 these 2nd best teams like OSU, TEXAS TECH and now OU have alot to prove in their last four games and the last four minutes of the game.
YOU GOTTA LOVE THE BIG 12
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JJ Bigs, Tulsa (11/3/2008 3:00:31 PM)
Actually it is very simple for the Sooners. Win out, win the Big XII Championship game, hope for a Bama and PSU loss and play Florida for the National Championship. Not possible, did anyone really think we would unfortunately be saying President Barak Hussein Obama? Anything is possible.
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Stomp, (11/3/2008 3:03:39 PM)
DrG makes a great point. Not a bad consolation prize for the south team that doesn't make the Big 12 championship game...win your last three games and you will be rewarded in a huge way.
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Stomp, (11/3/2008 3:09:47 PM)
why do they even have steps 6 and 7? Isn't it impossible for there to be a 'tie' in the BCS standings?
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Have that, America (11/3/2008 3:44:11 PM)
Stomp...

in theory, no. there are often ties in the computer part of the BCS calculation, and if the AP & Coaches polls have teams flip flopped then there could be a tie...don't think its ever happened though.
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trainman, muskogee (11/3/2008 4:03:58 PM)
i think ou will win out and have the highest bcs ranking therefore go to the big 12 championship game go sooners
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Shepard, (11/5/2008 11:18:38 PM)
It would be cool for OU to win out, but then even if we win the Big 12, guess where we'll go again? Fiesta. Getting sick of that one. Hopefully there will be some way we could get in the NC game if we win out. Oh well.
 

 
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