5055567475852000, Euless (10/29/2008 6:33:20 AM)

The 'what-if' filler is becoming old; OU is not going to the BCS title game or the CCG, so quit wasting time and effort on this nonsense. OU will have three losses and go to the Holiday Bowl and play Boise St, and the whorns will win it all. S*cks to be us right now...

DCPokeFan, (10/29/2008 8:12:17 AM)

Let's see...I open up the OSU sports page for the online Tulsa World, and find, not only is the lead story about OU's chances of making the BCS title game (which are about as good as OSU's by this scenario), and not only is the link to a Bob Stoops audio clip, but the photograph incorrectly mixes up Zac Robinson and David Johnson. I can see the argument that general sports-bar chat about OU applies to OSU because we're in the same state -- I'm sure, in fact, that the OU section of the TW online opens with OSU stories as the lead all the time! ;p -- but surely even the geekiest webinator can tell the difference between orange and red? And also, where in the story did Mr. Palm talk about Tulsa and OSU, as promised in the subheading? I must have missed that part...

LE, Tulsa (10/29/2008 9:04:47 AM)

The 'what-if' filler is becoming old; OU is not going to the BCS title game or the CCG, so quit wasting time and effort on this nonsense.
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I'd bet that's what you thought two years ago but Texas lost its last two game sending OU to the CCG and eventually the Big12 Championship.

Don't count either OSU or OU out.

ClashNVain, Tulsa (10/29/2008 10:09:20 AM)

You could also easily replace OU with OSU in that scenario (with the current standings). Picture this: Tech beats Texas, OSU beats Tech, Tech Beats OU, OSU beats OU. Texas wins out, OSU wins out, after losing to OSU Tech wins out.

What do we have? A three-way tie. And the same tie-breaking criteria would apply in that scenario also. So if OSU lost on 10/25, Texas loses on 10/31, and Tech loses last, it isn't unreasonable for OSU to be ranked higher in the BCS than those other two teams. That would be truly chaotic, although it would be interesting to see a Red River Rivalry national championship game, wouldn't it?

Have that, America (10/29/2008 10:55:45 AM)

Sports writers in this state don't care about OSU or TU. Very few of them even realize there is more than one university in this state. The thought of OSU being in the race for a conference championship or national championship in football is an idea that they refuse to grasp.

This article is so blindingly one way bias that I really hope and pray that the OSU tie breaker scenerio plays out. OU ends up with 3 losses and goes to the Alamo bowl, edged out of the cotton & holiday by Tech & Missouri.

conserv-o-king, (10/29/2008 10:56:34 AM)

I bet if two big XII teams played for the title we would hear an even greater public outcry for a playoff system in college football. All this what-if crap is a joke, no one contests the basketball national champion and March Madness gets bigger every year.

matt w, Tulsa (10/29/2008 11:11:27 AM)

I think that they should get away from the voting for the rankings, go based off of who wins and who loses. Drop the voting for the championship games, go with a playoff system like the pros. do. That's where some of these kids are going so they should get used to it now.

ClashNVain, Tulsa (10/29/2008 11:16:24 AM)

Pat Jones and Al Jerkins (sp?) had a good point yesterday that maybe Penn State going undefeated and not playing in the championship game might be the catalyst required for a playoff.

Dave in Houston, Houston (10/29/2008 12:18:06 PM)

ClashNVain, Tulsa (10/29/2008 11:16:24 AM)
Pat Jones and Al Jerkins (sp?) had a good point yesterday that maybe Penn State going undefeated and not playing in the championship game might be the catalyst required for a playoff.
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Congrats "Clash" for making the only worthy statement. The whatif crap for OU is pointless. OU's chances died on the same 4th down play that killed OSU'c chances. OU only goes if Texas loses twice which, like it or not, ain't happening.

If Penn St runs the table and JoePa is left out of what could be a story book ending to a Hall of Fame career, the media and public firestorm over the BCS system will be of epic proportions. Of course the BCS committee folk will just sit back, relax, and wait for USC to mop up the Lions in the Rose Bowl and we'll all be right back to where we are today...stuck with a bowl system that satisfies nothing except the wallets of Bowl and TV network honks.

Have that, America (10/29/2008 1:31:29 PM)

It will take a year of 4 undefeated teams that come out of the 4 major conferences to cause a stink enough to create a playoff system.

Think about if USC hadn't lost how much more drama there would be around all this right now...especially since the media loves USC so much even though they play in the softest conference imaginable...

the system has continued on even after Auburn was snubbed a few years ago after going undefeated in the SEC...it will take all 4 conferences producing a big name school thats an undefeated champion to force the hand of anyone. and even then...it will probably just be an "and 1" situation instead of a real playoff...

personally...I think it should be an 6 team playoff...top two seats get a bye on the first round...keep the bowls, there wouldn't be a need to change much...first two games can be the sugar/fiesta bowl....next two can be the rose/orange...and then the BCS NC game...the bowl people keep their bowls and their money...and the nation gets a true national champion....

the rest of the bowl games remain in tact...no one loses money...

of course...if we did this...all of a sudden the big arguement would be between the schools in the 5,6,7 & 8 spots all bickering for their piece of the pie....

sdacteli, Joliet (10/29/2008 3:30:21 PM)

Enough about all of this OU bull....this is the time to write about the Cowboys. The Sooners will not win in Bedlam this year. You guys have nothing better to do than to talk about the Sooners (bull is not inappropriate language). If you don't print this than you must be one of these clowns supporting OU

matt w, Tulsa (10/29/2008 4:15:17 PM)

sdacteli, we will just have to wait and see and then watch those cowgirls whine and cry when it's over.

AG1, (10/29/2008 6:31:35 PM)

OK Joker. When are you going to write the story about what has to happen for OSU to make it to the title game?

Who has a better shot? Who will be favored to win in Stillwater.

I'm sick and tired of all this OU bias.

Rhymeister, Tulsa (10/30/2008 6:42:20 AM)

Sorry but OU isn't going to the title game, their defense is not adequate to run the table from here on out.

Have that, America (10/30/2008 10:49:43 AM)

my predictions for bowl games out of the Big XII:

NC game : TX
BCS at large bid: OSU
Cotton: TTech
Holliday: Missouri
Alamo: OU
Insight: KU
Independance: CU
Texas Bowl: NEB

I can see OSU & Tech changing places depending upon the outcome of that game, which should be a slugfest out in lubbock, but I honestly think that both OSU & Tech will take it to the sooners. OU lacks playmakers on D & special teams, they have a soft secondary and can be beat with the deep ball. Additionally, they have 0 running game and cant control the tempo/flow of the game.

OU & Missouri may swap spots as well...Missouri wont lose another game untill they face another south team(more than likely Texas) in the Big XII championship game where they will once again be trounced. Leaving them with 3 losses, same as what OU will have. Both will more than likely be ranked in the 15-19 area after that and will basically be a toss up...

matt w, Tulsa (10/30/2008 2:08:38 PM)

Rhymeister, I don't really see OSU going to the title game either. There is too much that would have to happen for either one of them to make it, but we will just have to wait and see.

Rhymeister, Tulsa (10/31/2008 6:38:26 AM)

matt w,

I agree, a lot is going to have to happen for Ok State to get there, like beating T-Tech in Lubbock (tough) and beating OU in Stillwater (which I think they will if both teams stay at the same level). Not sure which team you are a fan of but personally I'm loving in, there is some very exciting football being played in the Big 12 this season.