tulsaOUfan, Tulsa (12/1/2008 9:09:19 AM)

"The final margin between Oklahoma and Texas came down to thirteen-hundredths of a percentage point"

Well now looks like we need a math lesson.

.935 - .922 = .013

.013 = 1.3%

or you could just show it all in % figures to start with:

93.5% - 92.2% = 1.3%

As you can see, either way you show it, it's not thirteen-hundredths of a percent (which is shown as 0.13%), it's 1.3%.

tulsaOUfan, Tulsa (12/1/2008 9:10:12 AM)

I agree swami, the Cotton Bowl is not neutral field for the RRSO.

TMT, tulsa (12/1/2008 9:13:40 AM)

Dear swamiwhatever,

what are you rambling on about? YOUR TEAM IS GOING TO KC THIS WEEKEND. this would have been a great argument to post YESTERDAY before the decision was made. good lord get a life. GO TU!!!!!!

Jackie Treehorn, Malibu (12/1/2008 9:43:24 AM)

Let's just have Texas play OU in the Big 12 Championship...there is no reason that the BT-North should automatically get a spot in the championship if they don't have a top team...The Big 12 Championship should be between the two top teams in the conference - OU & Texas...Tell Missouri to shove it. The Big 12 South will start including the North when they can produce a decent team, end of story.

sierrajoe, Langley (12/1/2008 9:45:30 AM)

TU fan, you are no better than swami, you have no stake in this. Fact is the Cotton Bowl is 50 percent Texas fans and 50 percent Oklahoma. It is roughly halfway between Norman and Austin. It is a neutral field. Point is Texas wants to ignore Tech. It was a three way tie not a two way. The BCS computers no longer take into account margin of victory. We had Cinn. and TCU. It also didn't hurt for Kansas to beat Mizz. In strenght of schedule we came out higher. The coaches picked us us by one point. We lost in the Harris pole. Average all that together... we win. It isn't a real mystery. Yes the head to head loss to Texas hurt. It just wasn't fatal. We are there now. All we need to do is win!

The Real Joe Dolty, TULSA (12/1/2008 10:00:57 AM)

Well, I don't think the Cotton Bowl is a neutral site, but it doesn't matter in this issue. The issue is Texass lost to Tech which is why they will be sitting in their living rooms Saturday night while I'll be at the game. A good friend is treating him and me to the Big 12 champ game tickets and hotel for an early xmas gift. I'm really looking forward to it. It sucks not to be me, doesn't it? HAHA

Arbythree, (12/1/2008 10:12:15 AM)

SWEET !!!

Arbythree, (12/1/2008 10:16:35 AM)

BTW......TMT, OU plays TU in the BOK Sunday. Looks like a great SOONER weekend ahead!!!!

BOOMER SOONER!

Sharkey Hammerhead, owasso (12/1/2008 10:52:45 AM)

This thing is going to get way out of hand ,like it always does.. Its Texas vs OU ,I am a football coach and the whole body of work should be looked at not only did we ( OU )play a more difficult schedule we beat people bad ..Did you (Texas) forget that you had to hold off Okla State at your house and they should have won, then you lost to a team (Texas Tech)that OU beat like a drum.. In fact Texas you all are getting a break even being rated as high as you are, I personaly fill that Florida should be ahead of you ..

DrG, tulsa (12/1/2008 11:41:43 AM)

Glad to see alot of unbiased opinions here as usual:) The system is what it is and the existing rules are what they are, fair or not so get over it everyone.

I will comment that there could be no more neutral site than Dallas for a team from Austin to play a team from Norman, both geographically and through equal ticket sales. Half the stadium in red and half in orange. Dont forget also that he biggest Sooner alumni base is, you guessed it, in Big D, not in Oklahoma. Those Big 12 refs are from all over the place, not from Texas. It is a spectacular game setting and no way to spin it as a non-neutral site.

Norman Bates, Bates Motel (12/1/2008 11:53:32 AM)

Geography has nothing to do with neutrality.

Norman Bates, Bates Motel (12/1/2008 12:04:59 PM)

It comes down to simple mathematics

44 + 6 > 10

ket, (12/1/2008 12:07:50 PM)

Let's see here, OU lost, Texas lost, Texas Tech lost. If any of these teams feel like they were wronged in any way, then they should have never lost the game in the first place. That would clear the controversy in a heart beat. As a side note, Bob Stoops and OU are a definate class act. Never once have you heard any griping or complaining from them even before the polls come out. BOOMER SOONER!

J. Price, (12/1/2008 12:56:48 PM)

What ket said!

On another note; I can't believe how many cheap tickets are on StubHub as of 1 PM. It appears to be a fire sale with people trying to get their money back out of them.

DanTheMainMan, Sand Springs (12/1/2008 1:07:58 PM)

I'm not a big fan of either of the sportscasters who broadcast the OU/Texas game on ABC, but they did have a logical tie breaker that did not include any influence outside the conference. Their tie breaker was to compare the point spread on a common conference game (Kansas). Oklahoma had the biggest point spread, and that would be the tie breaker. The sportscasters indicated it may have been based on tie breaker criteria from another conference. It sounded fair to me, including only events within the conference, rather than poll results and computer data based outside the conference.
DanTheMainMan

Getting Better, (12/1/2008 2:08:36 PM)

OU had the advantage of losing first. Don't lose and you don't have to complain. If TX was robbed so was Texas Tech. If TX is better than OU, then Texas Tech is better than TX.

K-Tulsa , Tulsa (12/1/2008 5:09:16 PM)

Oh pipe down "TMT" ... Swami was just making a VERY valid point. Sounds like "your team" didn't make it....waaaaaa

CaliforniaOkie, Burbank (12/1/2008 6:11:27 PM)

Swami-- You are so right on it is crazy. Playing that game in Dallas and calling it neutral is like playing it in OKC or Tulsa. How neutral is that? And the Texas coaches stumping for their team last week was pathetic. They hire a airplane to fly in Stillwater and it hurt their cause I think! Good for Texas! Nice job!

Sharkey Hammerhead, owasso (12/1/2008 6:45:55 PM)

Last thing I`ll say about it , Before the season everyone from each school had a chance to vote on the tie break system, it seems to me that everyone agreed to the terms in the tie break..No complaints until it affected you Texas, and i agree with the fan that said STOOPS HAS BEEN A CLASS ACT ON THE WHOLE MATTER .. Mack( AND I LIKE MACK) has always been somewhat of a winer) oh aren`t we glad he didn`t come to OU , Way to go Joe for hiring Coach Stoops, He has said over and over this is the best job in college football and it seems to me that we are the best team as well...What ever happens from this point on is the way its supposed to be , if you don`t like the way it is change the rules at this next years off season meetings ......Mack did you know the tie break before you lost ,,, And quit disrespecting Leach and his boys they beat you ...

Oklahomer, (12/2/2008 5:02:51 AM)

Now that the tie has been broken to determine the South's representative in the championship game by adhering to the Big 12 Conference rules, it is time to consider which team should receive the invitation to represent the Big 12 in a second BCS bowl game. Since there is no rule for deciding that issue, Mack Brown should be allowed to defer to Texas Tech. After all, Tech did beat Texas in the "head to head" game and according to Mack, the only fair way to break such ties is to look at how the two teams performed against each other.

shaw411, Scottsdale, AZ (12/2/2008 8:06:55 AM)

What is the 'ol saying in regards to the BCS: "It is better to lose early in the season than late in the season". That is what cost Texas their shot.

Lunatk, (12/2/2008 9:42:16 AM)

I have to agree with Ket, way back up the line. OU coaches and team are definitely a class act. Stoops always conducts himself in an excellent manner. It's the OU and OSU fans that are maniacal, trivial, rude and any other adjective that you can think of. Over many years I have attended sporting events with both OU/OSU fans and as an objective observer, they are embarrasing.

Scritchner, Tulsa (12/2/2008 3:15:09 PM)

Oh, Oklahomer. You may have yourself fooled but I can see through you.

Remember a few years back when OU lost to K-State in the Big 12 championship and still when to the BCS title game? How did that turn out? ...yeah, karma's a beach. You'll have nothing to gloat or whine about after Florida trouces you. All you'll have is proof that you're not even close to being a real contenter.

Oklahomer, (12/3/2008 4:22:12 AM)

Bilbo Baggins, thanks for the compliment.

Scritchner, don't just take my word for it. Listen to Bilbo. You went off on a tangent, dude. My post was about the hypocrisy of Mack Brown. Believe me, he will accept an invitation to a BCS bowl even though his team lost to Texas Tech. His whine has nothing to do with justice. It has everything to do with getting his Longhorns into "the big game."

Trickstr25, (12/3/2008 10:59:30 AM)

ESPN paid big for SEC broadcast rights. This means they have a conflict of interest when it comes to promoting and influencing people associated with the polls. It doesn't surprise me that they want to turn OK and TX fans against each other so they can keep up their true agenda of lifting the SEC to the top. OK and TX are better than Bama and Florida and should be reflected so in the polls. Just look at their computer rankings and the schedules.

The entire ESPN network has become biased. Herbstreit specifically promoted Florida and the SEC. ITS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!!!!

Just Google "ESPN SEC Sign Historic Contract"