oldnorthroad, (6/7/2009 6:09:24 AM)

The practice facility needs to get finished. OSU could have built a more than adequate facility with less than the 20 million donated by Sherman Smith. Instead, they should have broke ground on one for a fraction of the cost. Just could have left proper room for improvements and additions over the years. Things being how they are now, OSU is at an obvious disadvantage. Only school in the Big 12 without an indoor facility. Putting the players on buses and driving them to the likes of Ponca City High for workouts.

The ball was dropped... big time.

2curious, Tulsa, OK 74104 (6/7/2009 7:57:25 AM)

Holder might have some revenue streams if he'd open up the ticket booth to day-of-game sale. Instead...he lets 12,000 endzone seats go unsold every weekend. Of course he gave away most of those seats to the Frats during Bedlam last year.

I'm just sayin'...

WilliamTheArtist, (6/7/2009 9:54:20 AM)

More money needs to be spent at the OSU Tulsa campus. It would make the college far more competitive and allow for better synergies per dollar spent. 1. Imagine how much more attractive it would be for students to go to a vibrant campus right next to a great arts district, club district, arena, more things to see and do. 2. And very importantly think of the synergies the college and its research facilities could have being right next to major businesses and corporations, each helping the other. 3. More students could have more opportunity for work if they needed to. 4. Older, non traditional students, who already have careers and possibly families, going for higher degrees, could still work and live within short distance of the college. 5. Think of how much more vibrant our downtown areas would be with a large student population. 6. Think of the greater opportunities for student artists to sell their work in a larger city, or tech students and their start up companies to get going in a larger city versus out in the middle of no where. There are all kinds of synergies which would help OSU be more attractive, and the city and its businesses. But,,, we still keep encouraging more money being spent at OSU in Stillwater.

Have you ever noticed how most of those "best places to live" "best places to start a business" "highest income places" etc. etc. are college towns or are cities with large universities in them? Yet Stillwater is terribly dead and its "main street" area is, well, lame to put it bluntly. Its not an attractive, vibrant place to live, start a business, etc. In essence, we as a state are not seeing the benefits that a large university could have because we are putting our money in the wrong place. Location, location, location.

Every dollar put into OSU Tulsa would get you easily twice the benefit it would get you at OSU Stillwater. Not saying dont spend money and continue to grow the Stillwater Campus. But please, please, please, put a little into the Tulsa Campus. The whole of OSU would be the better having 2, unique and great campuses. Sports wise even, I would love to see OSU Tulsa become the "Soccer" campus to OSU Stillwaters "Football".

Eric, OKC, Oklahoma City (6/7/2009 11:13:42 AM)

So many idiot with so many stupid opinions. It will be built in the near future.

Richard in Norman, Norman (6/7/2009 11:22:15 AM)

When foundation money that was intended for academics was used for athletics OSU and state officials in Oklahoma would be wise to review the Oklahoma State University Mission statement to see if they are living up to the stated mission.

In the mean while the OSU marketing department screamed hey look at us and look what we are going to be someday, the University put the cart before the horse and got too greedy for its own good.

webjockey, Oklahoma City (6/7/2009 11:43:32 AM)

To echo 2curious' comment, OSU thumbed their nose at $1 million in ticket sales for the OU game alone last year: 10,000 empty (or unpaid for) seats @ $100.00 each (price charged to Sooner fans lucky enough to get tickets out of OU's 5,000 seat allotment).

Now they're whining about not having enough money, hmmmm.....

tulsaGuy, (6/7/2009 12:02:45 PM)

Dear righton, et. al.,

Humility is to make a right estimate of one's self. ~Charles Haddon Spurgeon

YeahThatWouldBeGreat, (6/7/2009 3:30:58 PM)

And you guys have a business college? What exactly do you teach there? sheesh!

snoop, (6/7/2009 4:29:39 PM)

Greed and stupidity would describe OSU's investment policy. Depending one one investment and one industry was insane. The money Boone gave last was only to meet their margin call from the bank. Holder next time let smarter minds invest the $$$$, maybe something would be left

ForWhatIt'sWorth, (6/8/2009 8:27:22 AM)

Obviously all of you that are so quick to criticize are far more intelligent than BP and the rest of the individuals making investment decisions for OSU. I'm assuming you've got the same kind of money to throw around, if not more, since they're all such idiots.

MexiMike, Tulsa (6/8/2009 9:02:38 AM)

2curious, the ONLY game you couldn't walk up and buy tickets on gameday last year was the OU game. Every single other game had single game tickets available.

Get your facts straight.

Webjockey, in my opinion the monetary loss was absolutely worth it if it meant keeping classless fans like you out.

Snoop, I don't think a person with your grammar (or lack thereof) should ever criticize anybody else's intelligence.

Same boring OU comments from all the same boring OU fans...give it a rest.

Lance-a-lot, Tulsa (6/8/2009 10:27:24 AM)

Waaaaaah! I lost $282 million in the stock market. I only have $125 million left. Boone, give us another check please!

Matt in BA, Broken Arrow (6/8/2009 11:50:09 AM)

for the money they spent on the existing homes and apartments, they do have a nice pile of dirt now.

OutPickMyNose, (6/8/2009 1:08:44 PM)

As an OSU graduate and owner of a property that was part of the "Athletic Village" ED removal, I can tell you that it is very disturbing to see this unfold.

After being forced out, and thankfully finding a wonderful new place to live in Stillwater I have come to expect this "village" to be built.

Holder has done a terrible job with just about everything besides hiring Travis Ford. If not for Boone, Holder would still be the golf coach at OSU. He has a terrible attitude and is not the type of person that Oklahoma State graduates tend to relate to.

I will always support OSU, but I will never be a big fan of Holder. He knows he lost all of that money, and all he can say is "If anyone wants to give money to build a stadium, call me." Weak.

And before anyone decides to attack me, I have been around Holder many times and my opinion of him is not a biased one. I do give people the benefit of the doubt.

Arbythree, Tulsa (6/8/2009 4:25:00 PM)

Good comments OutPick.

tulsaGuy, (6/9/2009 5:15:33 AM)

Here is OSU's mission statement:

Oklahoma State University is a multi-campus public land grant educational system that improves the lives of people in Oklahoma, the nation, and the world through integrated, high-quality teaching, research, and outreach. The instructional mission includes undergraduate, graduate, technical, extension, and continuing education informed by scholarship and research. The research, scholarship, and creative activities promote human and economic development through the expansion of knowledge and its application.

MexiMike, Tulsa (6/9/2009 10:36:14 AM)

Outpick, although I did not live or have property where the future athletic village will be, I do understand your beef.

Holder gambled and it backfired. I can't say that I didn't support his decision then, because I did, but unfortunately, hindsight is 20/20. All I can say now is I hope this plan gets back on track quickly because the longer it stays on the shelf the more the outcry will increase.