FUTURE WORLD, Tulsa (10/2/2009 11:48:51 PM)

What ever happened to this car? Did it ever get restored?

Maurie Nord, Pusan, South Korea (6/24/2007 6:51:07 PM)

THIS IS THE GUY WHO WON IT:

Maurie Nord Says:

June 24th, 2007 at 6:34 pm

Last nite I found the guy who won the car. Here he is at eight years old:

1930 United States Federal Census

about Raymond E Humbertson

Name: Raymond E Humbertson

Home in 1930: Cumberland, Allegany, Maryland

Age: 8

Estimated birth year: abt 1922

Relation to Head of House: Son

Father’s name: Azariah

Mother’s name: Mary E

Parents’ birthplace: View image

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age

Azariah Humbertson 42

Mary E Humbertson 40

Albert O Humbertson 20

Azariah H Humbertson 18

J Catherine Humbertson 16

Charles E Humbertson 11

Raymond E Humbertson 8

Levada P Humbertson 6

He died in 1979, in Virginia:

Raymond Humbertson

Born: 8 Jul 1921

Maryland, USA

Died: 1 May 1979

Virginia, USA

He was married without kids, a Korean War veteran, but apparently he has a nephew who may inhertit the car

Cheers,

Maurie Nord, Pusan, South Korea

Terry, Wichita (6/18/2007 4:00:51 AM)

It wouldn't matter to me if was pristine or the "bucket of rust" that it is, it's still a wonderful car. Not because of it's actual material value but because of the history surrounding it. I have never heard of any other city burying a car as a time capsule, and watching the old film of the 1957 celebration and burial and also seeing the old pictures of it and hearing the stories - and now seeing it come out of the ground, is truly a unique experience. So the technology used in 1957 didn't pan out as planned, who was to know? They did the best they could with what they had and hindsight is always 20-20. The Prowler placed in the time capsule may not do much better, only time will tell. I'd rather have the Belvedere as it sits than the Prowler (or any of the other immaculate cars at the car show) anyway, they've already moved the Prowler once which deducts time capsule points in my book. And anyway, a car in a time capsule? it's already been done so no points for originality either. Obviously the Belvedere is past restoration, unless every part of it was replaced, and that would be a pity, as it wouldn't even be the same car. No, leave her as she is, a one-of-a-kind piece of Tulsa's history and one with character to spare.

Kenth, Umeå in Sweden (6/17/2007 2:58:21 PM)

Now we have seen her and the things in the capsel...Now let her go back and be barried once more in peace and with the memory of that day she was taken up and shown.

Pieter Vos, Schellinkhout, The Netherlands (6/17/2007 1:09:29 PM)

I found out thrue a car magazine about the burried car event. Yes, it is to bad the vault was filled with water. Now I am just curious what the car looks like now after 50 years... please send me the picture! My co-workers like to know to!

Wilson, Tulsa (6/17/2007 6:13:35 AM)

I have recently heard that the water and mud may have come into the vault from a water main break around 1977 which destroyed the street adjoining the vault. It is my understanding that the whole street and pavement had to be dug up and repaired. I do remember one downtown in the past shown on TV which poured water out for quite some time.

Frank, Singapore (6/17/2007 12:55:39 AM)

Oklahoma, America's home grown version of Kazahkistan

Peggy, South Pasadena, CA (6/16/2007 8:58:20 PM)

I would LOVE to have spent only $20, to have been there when they revealed the car! This is an amazing story. So much to learn from it, and a wonderful incentive for reflection, on both past and present conditions.

Sincere and happy congratulations, Tulsa. You have captured the imagination of the world.

frank, singapore (6/16/2007 5:04:45 PM)

how could they dig a hole in the ground and not suspect it might fill up with water? They don't call em okies for nothing.

keiffer michaels, Tulsa (6/15/2007 10:27:00 PM)

They took the tarp off, it's finally been uncovered:

youtube com/watch?v=ye4WOha1f2k

Eva, Tulsa (6/15/2007 5:59:10 PM)

This should just be a fun little event-something novel and showing a sence of adventure on the part of those that went before us, even if their science wasn't perfect; yet here in the "Bible Belt" some people can't resist using any and every possible occasion to get on a soapbox to promote their hyper-religious views. The car is wet because Tulsa isn't Christian enough? <from Chris>. PLUEEZE. Give it a rest.l

Dave Humphries, Sussex, ENGLAND (6/15/2007 2:33:13 PM)

Well I think its a real shame that water has got in - I wonder if the prior 'test' unearthing earlier in the month broke any seals? I am curious to know exactly how the water ingress occurred?

One of my favourite cars, the Belvedere. Anyway looking forward to seeing the rest of it taken out and what they find.

Hats off to you all, great idea, fascinating to read and despite the set-bak of a little H2O, Tulsans (is that right?) can feel proud of their city for at least trying to do something innovative and that has captured the publics imaginations for 50 years! Well done!

matt, nebraska (6/14/2007 10:41:43 PM)

The 57 Plymouth with a Hemi would blow the doors off the Chevy and Fords! Those cars have more character than the bowtie anyday.Again, Why do people whine so much? If you don't like it , Stay home! Don't watch! But KWITCHERBELLYAKIN.

Dell, Tulsa (6/14/2007 9:37:30 PM)

I was asked why a 57 Belvedere? Since I was old enough in 57 to remember the Belvedere and the jokes, I said " Why not, no one wanted one, you couldn't give them away, so it was the perfect one to bury."

Scott, (6/14/2007 9:33:21 PM)

One last thing. Tulsa is located in the United States, which is a free Country, if you do not like it change or MOVE. Be part of the solution not the problem. People are risking their lifes as we sit at our computers and bash our own cities, Baghad suck Tulsa is not so bad. That's what's wrong with us, an ungrateful generation of people of this generation. 50 years ago those people had high expectation for us and we have the potential to meet their expectations. Thank GOD for what we have, and stop B@#$^ing about what we don't have. GOD BLESS THIS COUNTRY< AND GOD BLESS TULSA!

Scott, (6/14/2007 9:15:29 PM)

Who is going to pay for the tags, they are 49 years overdue?

jerry, Gilbertsville, KY (6/14/2007 8:36:18 PM)

Hey...I have been in Oklahoma and it is my opinion that they should have left the car above ground and buried Tulsa in a concrete vault.

Matt fhuere , north platte nebraska (6/14/2007 4:10:08 PM)

In a small town like mine I will be easy to find. How about we get them to make a deal today, I will started heading down there now and come get it.Even if water got to the car, the limited oxygen in there would help slow rust, Hell I have restored cars that were a third less steel than when they were new.Just looking at the pictures I can tell that car would be fine. Ever try to scrape grease off a fryingpan with an SOS pad? That car just sitting there with no scrubbing? Noway it is a rusted heap.

John S., Tulsa (6/14/2007 3:39:16 PM)

Matt Fhuere - the winner may remeber that you said you would gladly haul it off ... I am sure the tow bill will be higher than what Borg will pay you for the scrap...

Matt fhuere , north platte nebraska (6/14/2007 3:35:22 PM)

I have a feeling the car is fine, Look at how the bag is still pulled up against the car. If the bag had failed , when they pumped out the water, the water inside would pull the bag and be bloated around the bottom. The hard part will be cleaning the greasy mess off the car. Any condition, I will gladly haul it off!

Gordon, SManchester UK (6/14/2007 3:34:59 PM)

Its a shame, hard to believe they never figured on water getting in.

Myself, Newark, DE (6/14/2007 3:28:16 PM)

BACK TO THE FUTURE III, Hey they managed to bury a car for 70+ years in that movie and it turned out well. Here is hoping that this turns out well. Cool Idea and Best of Luck that it turns out.

Scott Hunt, Knoxville (6/14/2007 3:14:50 PM)

I have been following this some and really wanted to be there for the unveiling. Probably the pictures on the net will be better than trying to see through the crowd.

I am disappointed with all the negative comments. So it might not be in great condition. I don't think that was the point. Look at all the interest this is generating. The stories, the questions, the good memories. Yes, it's too bad, but it's not so bad. Years from now, it'll either be in a museum as it is OR someone will restore it to pristine condition. I would proudly display it in my garage as it is just so that I could say to my neighbor, 'I've got a little story to tell you......."

John, Berkeley (6/14/2007 2:14:38 PM)

Was the gastank full? Did the gast contain MTBE? Perhaps environmental tests on the surrounding soil should be performed.

Michael S., San Diego, CA (6/14/2007 2:10:18 PM)

Wow! That is pretty cool! It was a great idea, but as they say "The best plans of mice and men...." Also, some of you are really down on Tulsa! What gives?

Paul , Eugene, Oregon (6/14/2007 12:13:04 PM)

Wait, they buried WHAT in a vault 50 years ago?!

John S., Tulsa (6/14/2007 9:45:04 AM)

The Critic... was talking with my neighbor yesterday evening... We figure it will be more of a curse to win the car than a blessing. Will have to pay taxes on it, then knowing how Tulsa operates - the person will get a ticket/fine for not having the vehicle tagged/registered. Then will get another ticket for owning such the eyesore, then another for the hazardous waste that was in the swimming pool that they had to have HazMat out to look at. Then on top of it all, Borg Steel will only give them $20 for the rusted scrap steel...

KinZ, Tulsa (6/14/2007 9:44:24 AM)

A Plymouth Belvedere-$1,600

The cost of burying it-$2,000

The cost of unearthing-$5,000

50 years of anticipation, being drown out with the raising of the lid-Priceless.

John S., Tulsa (6/14/2007 9:41:54 AM)

Is this topic worth even laughing at anymore ?

Firstsai, University of Kansas (6/14/2007 8:39:49 AM)

154. 6/13/2007 11:54:25 PM, Miss D, Tulsa

What a sad little person you are, trying to blame the misdeeds of a handful of people on a whole community. In any event, the subject was the car and the time capsule..I suppose "they're" the blame for this too?

Kevin, Philadelphia (6/14/2007 8:04:40 AM)

No problem, they can just call Xzibit and the boys at GAS. So please MTV, PIMP MY RIDE!

The Critic, Tulsa (6/14/2007 4:10:14 AM)

At Tulsahocket.net/forums...

Yes, Tulsa does have a hockey team called the Tulsa Oilers, a brilliant person brought up the following question...]

"So, is the person who was closest to guessing Tulsa's population, responsable for disposing of it?"

Dave, Tulsa (6/14/2007 12:18:30 AM)

There are ancient civilizations that knew how to bury things watertight underground. Saying that people in 1957 didn't know concrete wasn't waterproof is silly. They just didn't care.

This whole thing was just some salesmen and shysters throwing a stunt to make some money and sell shoddy concrete.

There's a sucker born every minute, even fifty years later.

Tim, Tulsa (6/13/2007 11:32:35 PM)

Does this mean the car will have a CARFAX report??? might be a good canidate for the next CARFAX commercial !!

Piit B. Awot, the Second, (6/13/2007 11:26:02 PM)

^^^^^^^ Was here after Piitb, with George Costanza.

Mica the Catcher, Chicago, IL (6/13/2007 11:24:43 PM)

^^^^^ Was here after Piitb.

Mica the Catcher, Chicago, IL (6/13/2007 11:24:20 PM)

^^^^^ Was here after Piitb.

Mica the Catcher, Chicago, IL (6/13/2007 11:18:29 PM)

^^^^^ Was here after Piitb.

BRDMAN, Awot, IN (6/13/2007 11:16:56 PM)

was here

Piitb Awot, Denver, CO (6/13/2007 11:14:27 PM)

Was here.

Mike, Calif (6/13/2007 10:59:54 PM)

Will it be restored and displayed in a local museum?

Keith Shaw, Shawnee, Okla. (6/13/2007 10:59:06 PM)

I am uhappy with all the negative comments. It was buried with good intentions and with the best technology available in 1957. I am not surprised at the comments by some of the snooty 57 Chevy crowd. I have put up with them for the past 30 yrs. that I have owned my beloved restored coral & white 57 Ford Sunliner Convertible. It might interest you to know that there were 77,000 of them sold compared to only 50,000 or so 57 Chevy convertibles and 57 Fords outsold 57 Chevys across the board that year! Regardless, 57 Plymouths were beautiful and fantasticaly advanced cars that year as stated in their ads

"Suddenly it's 1960". I am anxious to see it as I remember very well when it was buried as a part of the "Arrows to Atoms" Semi-centennial celebration in summer of 1957. I was 14 at the time,Car Crazy,and hoped to be around when it is retrieved. Luckily, I am even though I have been fighting stage 4 colon cancer for the past 4 yrs.!! How about lets all say a prayer that it is in good shape? Prayer is the only reason I am here to write this e-mail!!

JS, Texas (6/13/2007 10:39:57 PM)

I can't believe that people from Oklahoma can even spell the word "Plymouth."

JS, Texas (6/13/2007 10:38:11 PM)

I can't believe that people from Oklahoma can even spell the word "Plymouth."

Mr Engineer, Atlanta (GA, no not TX you rednecks) (6/13/2007 10:29:40 PM)

Since submarine technology was nicely in place when this car was buried we know that thick welding ws available. Placing it inside a moderate wall thickness suitable diameter pipe with even SCH40 FD heads and purging the interior with argon or even Nitrogen to save $ would result in a pristine vehicle. Which judging by this years Barrett-Jackson Auction would be able to command several MILLION dollars. Hindsight is usually 20-20

Hey Dick, got a pencil?

Sorry, old joke for a few of my TX friends.....

The Critic, Tulsa (6/13/2007 9:46:07 PM)

Dear Winston Gregory,

As soon as someone hits oil here... it may be a jewel again. However, that will not happen. Houston is the energy capital of the world. Besides, isn't this nation leaning to be less "oil dependent". Odds are, Tulsa will remain a blue collar town and the spirit of Oklahoma will remain in the motto "labor conquers all".

CarFan, Dallas (6/13/2007 9:36:24 PM)

Good luck with the car, I hope it makes it! You folks have a great city...even if it appears some of your fellow citizens don't see it that way. I've lived and traveled all over our country, Tulsa has lots going for it...Good climate, Rolling hills, not flat desert, Water recreation all around, a good sized airport with much more travel options that other cities of similar size. Some people look at a Glass and see it half full, others see it half empty....There is water in the vault so what! Enjoy the party!

TULSA NATIVE, Broken Arrow (6/13/2007 9:22:40 PM)

Typical bunch of OKIE Nay-Sayers. Can't find anything good to say. Just laughing, belching, farting, spitting, whilst wiping the cow poop off'n yer boots bunch of IGNORANT rednecks. I hope the car is fine and I hope you have a huge gas build up in front of the diarrhea that will explode from your backside when the car is brought up and is O.K. 'Course then you'll just say "awwww, shooot, I wuz hopin' it wuz all rustered up," as you spit out 'yer chaw. Stupid Okies giving this Okie a bad rap.

chuck , Manitowoc (6/13/2007 9:15:17 PM)

HEY! they buried Christine. even if she is rusty, she will pepare herself.

Tulsa, enjoy this celebration and quit your whining!

sure wish i would have guessed how many whiners Tulsa would have had by 2007.

Steven, (6/13/2007 8:32:50 PM)

Well.. now I know what I have to look forward to after I kick the bucket..

brandon, san antonio (6/13/2007 8:29:28 PM)

out of all the years i lived in tulsa i had no idea there was a car buried in the courthouse lawn. im sad to say that i wasnt and couldnt be there to watch it. being 28 years old and into old cars id give most anything to see it even though i dont know the history. for a small group of us its nice to see that the past may have a chance in the future. i just hoped the plastic bag worked!

Feadan, Bellingham, WA (6/13/2007 8:27:40 PM)

Tulsa, What a great event and I'm sorry I couldn't be there to watch. I first read about the time capsule over a decade ago and admired a city that had such a sense of fun. To the nay-sayers, you are missing the point. The condition of the car is irrelevant in the end. It is all about the creativity, the fun, and the sharing of the future with folks they would never meet. Way to go Tulsa!

Feadan, Bellingham, WA (6/13/2007 8:17:03 PM)

Tulsa, What a great event and I'm sorry I couldn't be there to watch. I first read about the time capsule over a decade ago and admired a city that had such a sense of fun. To the nay-sayers, you are missing the point. The condition of the car is irrelevant in the end. It is all about the creativity, the fun, and the sharing of the future with folks they would never meet. Way to go Tulsa!

MJ, Buffalo (6/13/2007 8:08:36 PM)

Oh, come on. This isn't a metaphor for Tulsa's progress as a city. Frankly, from where I sit--a place that has had about 100 years longer than Tulsa to really screw things up where city planning is concerned--Tulsa's development looks fantastic. It was a great place to grow up, and from what I can tell from reading the news sporadically it still is.

I wish I could be there for the unearthing of the Belvedere. To me, it's a symbol of how hopeful and forward-looking the citizens of Tulsa were in the 50s, and it will be neat to see what they thought was important to show the citizens of the 21st century.

WangHu, Inland Southern California (6/13/2007 8:04:13 PM)

How sad to see the water & it's bath tub ring above roof level. Don't sell those old boy oil field machinists short, folks...they knew metal & how to protect it. On one of the uncovered vault .jpg's there appears to be a water main close to the hood end of the vault. Does anyone know if that's the case? Does anyone know how high the normal water table is there?...sprinklers installed after the fact?

As an outsider, I applaud Tulsa, not only for it's creativity in choosing the time vault's contents 50 years ago...but also for making this one of the best nostalgia events EVER, whatever the outcome.

Tulsa born, Tulsa (6/13/2007 8:03:24 PM)

This article brings to me two emotions.

The car being under water is a shame. I first became aware of he car while stationed in Germany. It was the subject of a really cool AFN spot and made me very proud to be from Tulsa.

I don't know what pleases me more. Paris Hilton crying as she is driven away to jail or to see a picture one of Tulsa's pompous trust fund babies cry.

Thanks to the Tulsa World for printing such a joke. Sharon King Davis has done many things for Tulsa just ask her!

Tulsa born, Tulsa (6/13/2007 8:02:25 PM)

This article brings to me two emotions.

The car being under water is a shame. I first became aware of he car while stationed in Germany. It was the subject of a really cool AFN spot and made me very proud to be from Tulsa.

I don't know what pleases me more. Paris Hilton crying as she is driven away to jail or to see a picture one of Tulsa's pompous trust fund babies cry.

Thanks to the Tulsa World for printing such a joke. Sharon King Davis has done many things for Tulsa just ask her!

Saul Good, (6/13/2007 7:51:26 PM)

Hey NOT ALL CAPS, stop acting like a chat room cry baby. Nobody except lamers and newbies makes a big deal about caps anymore. GROW UP YOU BIG THIN SKINNED BABY. Leave Kaye alone.

James, Skiatook (6/13/2007 7:44:45 PM)

Its a shame that the vault leaked. But a bit of sealing could have prevented this travesty. Although uncommon, vaults and basements can be installed in areas with thin topsoil and high water tables. Hopefully the plastic held up, otherwise it was a bit of a waste.

Greg, Tulsa (6/13/2007 7:29:39 PM)

This is sad to read all the negativity in your responses. What memories would you have in life if everything in life went as planned and everything was going perfectly? How boring! I call Tulsa home good or bad. If it's so bad, move. I'm enjoying life and look forward to seeing the car unveiled, rust or not. I'll chalk it up to an experience to share a unique experience with my son and hopefully provide him with something that he'll never forget.

Robin, Tulsa (6/13/2007 7:23:42 PM)

I agree with Jeff from Dallas. For all of you who are complaining about this exciting event, my suggestion to you is... MOVE! Tulsa is a great city to live in or visit. Some people only care about sitting on their every gowing butts and complaining instead of trying to make a difference. When is the last time you talked to your senator or had a suggestion on how to fix a problem instead of just causing one or even voted for that matter? Probably never... so SHUT IT! Whatever the condition of the car, who cares. Its a CAR and a piece of Tulsa history. If you don't like it there are 49 other states to choose from.

Winston Gregory, Broken Arrow, OK (6/13/2007 7:20:59 PM)

Perhaps Tulsa's failure or success at its attempted endeavors has more to do with its citizenship reflected on this board than poor city planning. Maybe the doom and gloomers should be put in the vault and see if we can revive them after the city has become the jewel it once was.

JAck, nothere (6/13/2007 7:15:38 PM)

I especially loved the ad that that was presented with this page:

"VISIT YOUR LOCAL CHEVY DEALERS FOR GREAT OFFERS IN YOUR AREA"

Classic.

Winston Gregory, Broken Arrow, OK (6/13/2007 7:07:25 PM)

Perhaps Tulsa's failure or success at its attempted endeavors has more to do with its citizenship reflected on this board than poor city planning. Maybe the doom and gloomers should be put in the vault and see if we can revive them after the city has become the jewel it once was.

Eric, OKC (6/13/2007 6:58:41 PM)

It would have been easy 6 months ago to dig down 2 ft, drill a hole in the top and insert a fiberoptic camera to see if it had water in it.

Then the hole could have been resealed.

This would have saved some people FAR FAR AWAY a lot of time and expense.....

I do hope the baggie held, but have little hope. Going back to 57, it would have been a much better decision to put it in an above ground mausoleum instead of a watery grave...

Mallen, OKC (6/13/2007 6:58:07 PM)

You Tulsans can't do anything right...

Rd Miller, Tulsa (6/13/2007 6:41:31 PM)

Time capsules are only a progression of 'age'. ALL get old. All get rusty. The Tulsa time capsule may be 'old bones', but those bones were and are part of our history.

We should ALL enjoy the unearthing!!

Jeff, Studio City, CA (6/13/2007 6:20:10 PM)

Just for a moment, step out of your bickering and imagine all of the planning it took to attempt something as courageous as the time capsule. However the car reveals itself, it was a great thing for the City of Tulsa to attempt. Much better to fail than never to try. I'll be there with galoshes on.

ME, Tulsa (6/13/2007 6:00:48 PM)

Everyone knew there was a chance of water in the vault but there is still going to be one great car show going on inside and out!!

David E. Baughn II, Tulsa Ok. (6/13/2007 5:43:15 PM)

I'll bet that none of you look as good as you did fifty years ago. Think of the spirit with which this thing was done and then just listen to yourselves.

BTW just who decided to sell tickets to see the unveiling and who reaps the profits?

Would anyone like to buy a ticket? I'm gonna take the cover off my 1958 ski boat after while

Stacie, Tulsa (6/13/2007 5:39:25 PM)

You just made my point, JohnS. But, I guess the world needs cynics too!

stan, tulsa (6/13/2007 5:33:32 PM)

So, who's the winner of the soggy car?

John S., Tulsa (6/13/2007 5:10:56 PM)

Diamonds ? lol ... Yes, I would... cause who would have been so ignorant to have done that in the first place ...

DO NOT HIT REFRESH, (6/13/2007 5:08:23 PM)

If you hit refresh, it will repost your message. A bug in the design of the page... Oh - it is about Tulsa, what kind of a Tulsa based subject wouldn't be complete without a failure or 2 ???

Stacie, Tulsa (6/13/2007 5:07:02 PM)

Amen to that! "Vote for Pedro". If that vault was shooting diamonds out of it for everyone to have, people would STILL find something to complain about! Let's hear it for Tulsa!!!

John S., Tulsa (6/13/2007 5:06:54 PM)

Lauren, we could always raise the tax another penny to do it ?!?! It seems that is the rule around here... And yes, people that are reading the archives here would be proud - that s if they will speak english in 50 years... Maybe there will still be a translation engine for the English language. They will be astonished that some of us had freedom of speech, and used it. They will probably find it second nature to see the people bashing people for utilizing that freedom that we have today.

Stacie, Tulsa (6/13/2007 5:04:37 PM)

Amen to that! "Vote for Pedro". If that vault was shooting diamonds out of it for everyone to have, people would STILL find something to complain about! Let's hear it for Tulsa!!!

pedro, (6/13/2007 5:03:02 PM)

Biddlecombe: don't know you - just playing. Not to change the topic, but if we really want to get people typing in a rage lets talk about the immigrant invasion!

pedro, (6/13/2007 4:57:58 PM)

Amen to that, Biddlecombe. People need to chill. If that old Belvy was in perfect condition yall'd be gripping just the same.

Steve Biddlecombe, Romsey, England (6/13/2007 4:55:14 PM)

To all posters:- I have submitted both of my comments once yet they seem to be getting repeated for some reason. Worry not, I am not trying extra hard to get myself heard, it's obviously just a problem with this site! Pedro? Do I know you? I am in England but am sorry I took your 100th spot lol!

Lauren, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:51:21 PM)

VIVA LA BELVEDERE!

Steve Biddlecombe, Romsey, England (6/13/2007 4:51:19 PM)

My earlier comment stands & I agree with Lauren in Tulsa wholeheartedly, so hows about stop the politics & the joking over people's efforts of fifty years ago & enjoy the spectacle of the unveiling, whatever the condition be. It's a bit of fun, enjoy it, the reminiscing, those wonderful historic photos & stop bickering, make love not war, it could be worse, you could be serving in Iraq or paying $9 a gallon for gas like I do here in UK for my 58 Buick & Lincoln!!!

Yoda, a galaxy far away (6/13/2007 4:50:24 PM)

If you are Pro Tulsa, Pro Down Town, please check out the posts going on after the Article about moving city hall. I encourage you all to get behind individuals (not political bandwagons) trying to make a positive difference in our community. The Belvedere story is great, even if the car turned into a lemon...you can still make lemonade out of it! Sharon King Davis has done many things for Tulsa, she deserves praise.

Lauren, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:49:51 PM)

VIVA LA BELVEDERE!

pedro, (6/13/2007 4:49:43 PM)

Dang it, Biddlecombe does that to me every time!

Pedro, (6/13/2007 4:48:40 PM)

I want to be the 100th post

Steve Biddlecombe, Romsey, England (6/13/2007 4:47:04 PM)

My earlier comment stands & I agree with Lauren in Tulsa wholeheartedly, so hows about stop the politics & the joking over people's efforts of fifty years ago & enjoy the spectacle of the unveiling, whatever the condition be. It's a bit of fun, enjoy it, the reminiscing, those wonderful historic photos & stop bickering, make love not war, it could be worse, you could be serving in Iraq or paying $9 a gallon for gas like I do here in UK for my 58 Buick & Lincoln!!!

MissT, (6/13/2007 4:42:32 PM)

Good point of view Lauren!

Lauren, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:39:40 PM)

We need to think, will our archived posts be worthy of being read by people in 2057? Nope, didn't think so! But those stories about the car burial, they are really interesting. Hard to believe the car was donated, can you imagine them donating a brand new car to be buried, at least I haven't heard of it lately. And the materials, labor, most of it donated. People then were amazing, help came from all over the country, not just around here. All for this time, all for us -- don't waste their faith in us.

MissT, (6/13/2007 4:37:32 PM)

VIVA LA TULSA!!!!!!!!

ALP, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:37:08 PM)

Seriously, I don't think the negative comments are actually negative. Was that an oxymoron? Anyway, I think everyone is just having a good time with the news at hand about the car. I think it is interesting and at the same time silly. And I think everyone here knows Tulsa is a great city especially compared to that city up the turnpike that looks like it came out of a vault. Tulsa is really a great place to live with it's problems like the rest that we can improve on.

ALP, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:35:57 PM)

Seriously, I don't think the negative comments are actually negative. Was that an oxymoron? Anyway, I think everyone is just having a good time with the news at hand about the car. I think it is interesting and at the same time silly. And I think everyone here knows Tulsa is a great city especially compared to that city up the turnpike that looks like it came out of a vault. Tulsa is really a great place to live with it's problems like the rest that we can improve on.

Steve Biddlecombe, Romsey, England (6/13/2007 4:34:51 PM)

My earlier comment stands & I agree with Lauren in Tulsa wholeheartedly, so hows about stop the politics & the joking over people's efforts of fifty years ago & enjoy the spectacle of the unveiling, whatever the condition be. It's a bit of fun, enjoy it, the reminiscing, those wonderful historic photos & stop bickering, make love not war, it could be worse, you could be serving in Iraq or paying $9 a gallon for gas like I do here in UK for my 58 Buick & Lincoln!!!

Yoda, a galaxy far away (6/13/2007 4:30:39 PM)

With 1 hand, lift this car I could! Beware, fear breeds anger, anger breeds hate, and hate leads to the dark side. Patience and focus will be rewarded to those who practice, negativity and fear will squander their own distributors.

The Critic, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:30:15 PM)

Hey J Man, maybe we could put those illegals in as our city government also. They will work harder than those gringos in office right now, and for a fraction of the cost! :-D

John S., Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:29:19 PM)

Jay,

Now that was one of the best suggestions I have heard ! Lets see how they fair with 2 feet of water and 50 years...

Hey, it's only 2007 we don't have the technology that they will in 2057, so who knows what will happen to them in 50 years ?

MissT, (6/13/2007 4:27:16 PM)

But John...most of us like to pretend that we have rocket science degrees!!

John S., Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:26:39 PM)

Another Iraq "joke"... So, does everyone here compare Tulsa to Iraq ? If you haven't been there don't comment about it... I have too many vivid images of that time - this is not the place for it. This is a place for freedom of speech and public expression. Everyone has their feelings and are entitled to voice their opinions. The opinions may or may not be the same views as yours - that is what makes us each unique ! Respect my opinions and I will respect yours.

I bet the people in 1957 respected each other more than you are respecting me !

The Jay Man, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:26:14 PM)

Why don't we squeeze several hundred illegals in there and I bet they could get it started.

Steve Biddlecombe, Romsey, England (6/13/2007 4:24:53 PM)

My earlier comment stands & I agree with Lauren in Tulsa wholeheartedly, so hows about stop the politics & the joking over people's efforts of fifty years ago & enjoy the spectacle of the unveiling, whatever the condition be. It's a bit of fun, enjoy it, the reminiscing, those wonderful historic photos & stop bickering, make love not war, it could be worse, you could be serving in Iraq or paying $9 a gallon for gas like I do here in UK for my 58 Buick & Lincoln!!!

John S., Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:22:50 PM)

Uhmm... Concrete is pourous... always has been - always will be ...

How many homes in Tulsa have a concrete basement ?

Not rocket science here...

Steve Biddlecombe, Romsey, England (6/13/2007 4:22:02 PM)

My earlier comment stands & I agree with Lauren in Tulsa wholeheartedly, so hows about stop the politics & the joking over people's efforts of fifty years ago & enjoy the spectacle of the unveiling, whatever the condition be. It's a bit of fun, enjoy it, the reminiscing, those wonderful historic photos & stop bickering, make love not war, it could be worse, you could be serving in Iraq or paying $9 a gallon for gas like I do here in UK for my 58 Buick & Lincoln!!!

MissT, (6/13/2007 4:21:14 PM)

It is a bunch of nonsense and complaining. Back in the day people did not have the resources that we do now to have maybe prevented the whole 2 feet of water that was surrounding the car. **Progress not perfection*** here people. 50 years from now we will probably be suspending a car from space, but then we will all have something negative to say about that one too....

John S., Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:17:49 PM)

From Dallas ? Reading a Tulsa paper ? Do you not have enough murders and drug deals going on in your news ?

Tulsa is my home, always has and probably always will be. The only time I have lived away from here was when I was in Desert Storm - so your Iraq "joke" was in very bad humor... I have been there and done that - I have fought for my country in order for me to have my freedom of speech ! What have you done there spanky ?????????? So shut your pie hole before you turn this "celebration" comment page into something more.

Jeff, Dallas (6/13/2007 4:17:47 PM)

I think its sad to hear all the negavitiy and complaining that has been written. For those of you who are so unhappy with things in Tulsa, you should move to another town. Better yet another country, mayby Iraq. Then see how bad you think you have it. This should be a time of rememberance and celebration no matter what has happened to the car. If you don't have anything nice to say keep your mouth shut.

The Critic, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:17:43 PM)

Hillarious...

Such failure should only be expected in this failure of a city.

Now all of you who paid $20 to sit floor level at the convention center Friday evening sure spent your money wisely! AHAHAHAHAHA

Let's make a new time capsule and put the mayor and counselors in it.

Hattie, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:16:26 PM)

Silly, silly, silly!

Jeff, Dallas (6/13/2007 4:13:25 PM)

I think its sad to hear all the negavitiy and complaining that has been written. For those of you who are so unhappy with things in Tulsa, you should move to another town. Better yet another country, mayby Iraq. Then see how bad you think you have it. This should be a time of rememberance and celebration no matter what has happened to the car. If you don't have anything nice to say keep your mouth shut.

John S., Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:13:09 PM)

Aman Chris !

Tulsa may be in the bible belt, but it could use quite a few lashings from that belt !!!

John S., Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:12:01 PM)

Hurry not too many tickets left. I will be using my 5 year old's Tonka truck to do the excavating. Please do not tell the Tulsa officials that I do not have the proper permits to dig this hole! I promise I will cover it back up. For goodness sakes I own my property why should I need a permit for my unearthing celebration ?

Lauren, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:10:19 PM)

Vaults got joints? Thought they were seamless, but with the new construction around it, anything could've jarred loose.

Chris, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:10:08 PM)

Yes, this happened because the city of Tulsa does not have Jesus in their heart. If Tulsa had Jesus, this car would be walking on water. Tulsa, Repent now or perish forever.

John S., Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:09:50 PM)

I am going to dig a hole in my back yard tonight. I am not sure what I will find, but it will be old. So, who all would like to come to the unearthing ? I will ofcourse charge you admission to view whatever it is that I do dig up. And I am charging more that Tulsa is charging to see a rusted car, all because my dig up of junk will be a celebration of the unknown !

John S., Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:07:06 PM)

Celebrating a fun time ? Are you saying to celebrate yet another TULSA FAILURE ? See, that is what is confusing about Tulsa, they fail and then turn around and celebrate a failure... Good grief people. If you remember, the same thing happened when they opened the Saint Francis time capsule, everything was soaked and coroded. Or, how soon you forget that Tulsa failure ?

Larry, Tulsa (6/13/2007 4:04:20 PM)

I enjoy how people keep being negative and complaining about the posters they consider negative.

MissT, (6/13/2007 4:02:43 PM)

Lauren, I was wondering about the Tranqs too, lol

MissT, (6/13/2007 4:01:48 PM)

Wish you could see it too, BTW Im flattered!

Derek, (6/13/2007 4:00:22 PM)

I can't wait to see it Miss T! I wish I could be there with you to see it. BTW, You sound so beautiful!

Cementitousness, tulsa (6/13/2007 4:00:10 PM)

We hear that its not the concrete, but rather the joints in the vault. There may have been little sealing in the floor.

Lauren, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:56:17 PM)

Nobody wants political grimacing here, so can it! The '57 crowd would be amazed that we can all communicate like we're doing here! But doing so little with it. And I'm sure they wouldn't want us hashing out tired grievances instead of celebrating this fun time. Wonder if those tranquilizers would still work?

TIME, TULSA (6/13/2007 3:53:14 PM)

I did not hit submit twice!! it is doing it whe i click on the refresh button in the web toolbar.

TIME, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:52:00 PM)

You are right ALP Confusing. ??2020?? are we talking about the Vision 2025?

TIME, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:50:34 PM)

You are right ALP Confusing. ??2020?? are we talking about the Vision 2025?

MissT, (6/13/2007 3:48:34 PM)

I dont care what its going to look like when it is unveiled, its a part of history and its pretty neat that people are comming from all over the country and from other countries to be a part of it.

Time, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:46:06 PM)

LMAO-ALP

ALP, tulsa (6/13/2007 3:44:34 PM)

Please don't hit submit twice, it is confusing and being negative twice as much as the first hit.

In response, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:42:14 PM)

Emily states "Why not put that energy into revitalizing our city and making it to an even better place to live?"

Now, that is a joke ! With the crooked people making the decisions for Tulsa - how can that happen ? There are a few 'money' familes that make the decisions here - that is why Tulsa is in the despair that it is. Like "Oh My" stated - the 2020 scandal - that was put forth by those certain 'money' families.

History proving itslef over again.

In response, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:41:35 PM)

Emily states "Why not put that energy into revitalizing our city and making it to an even better place to live?"

Now, that is a joke ! With the crooked people making the decisions for Tulsa - how can that happen ? There are a few 'money' familes that make the decisions here - that is why Tulsa is in the despair that it is. Like "Oh My" stated - the 2020 scandal - that was put forth by those certain 'money' families.

History proving itslef over again.

Marie, (6/13/2007 3:40:16 PM)

I'm sorry that it has water in the vault. I'm sorry that some of you think it is funny. Tulsa has problems, but what city doesn't. It's home to me for almost 30 years and I'm glad I stayed. I'm excited about whatever shape the car is in...life has a lot of surprises that come along, but we still move on! I'm glad the "party" has not been cancelled due to a little water!!!! Don't let the water in the vault dampen the celebration!

In response, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:37:28 PM)

Emily states "Why not put that energy into revitalizing our city and making it to an even better place to live?"

Now, that is a joke ! With the crooked people making the decisions for Tulsa - how can that happen ? There are a few 'money' familes that make the decisions here - that is why Tulsa is in the despair that it is. Like "Oh My" stated - the 2020 scandal - that was put forth by those certain 'money' families.

History proving itslef over again.

Marie, (6/13/2007 3:36:19 PM)

I'm sorry that it has water in the vault. I'm sorry that some of you think it is funny. Tulsa has problems, but what city doesn't. It's home to me for almost 30 years and I'm glad I stayed. I'm excited about whatever shape the car is in...life has a lot of surprises that come along, but we still move on! I'm glad the "party" has not been cancelled due to a little water!!!! Don't let the water in the vault dampen the celebration!

Oh My, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:32:11 PM)

This is awesome ! This goes to show that some things never change - Tulsans were confused on how to do something right 50 years ago - the same as they are today. And people expect the best out of what Tulsa does - and it always fails ! Just think - in another 13 years, we'll look back on this whole Vision 2020 joke and laugh at the mess up there as well !

Robert, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:23:57 PM)

The Tulsarama planning started 18 months ago. The actual lid removal was 10 minutes. Unwrap the car and it will be like a fresh sandwich! The car is probably still in good shape as it was vacuume sealed they say.

Time, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:21:37 PM)

50 years ago. hmmmm who would have thought then about CD's, Flat screen Tv's, Ipods, cell phones, etc. things change. 50 years ago, the product they used was the best in that time. Time Capsule. Great idea. Hope the beer makes it. :) I see sadness, humor, and a great learning experience from the Time Capsule. I hope I'm around when they uncover the other car, that will be neat to compare to today.

Bob Lauer, Las Vegas (6/13/2007 3:19:38 PM)

Enjoy the party! The planners from 1957 did! I still think it will be in good shape because it was sealed in a plastic baggie.

Randy, Chicago (6/13/2007 3:15:54 PM)

Being from Chicago, home of Capone's empty vault, I can both symphatize, and hope, hope that this replaces the Capone vault opening on the national farce list.

Just wondering: why, exactly, did it take 18 MONTHS!!! to uncover this (which looks to be all of 5 feet underground)?

Robert, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:15:12 PM)

10 gallons of gas in case there were no combustion engines in 2007. Boy did they have high hopes for us! We sure let the people of 1957 down. Crime up, no morals, U.S. going down hill...Stop all the negativity.

Emily, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:13:45 PM)

I agree with Stacie. Bury the negativity! It sounds like there are so many people on here complaining about our city. Why not put that energy into revitalizing our city and making it to an even better place to live? This is a great event and the PR we have gotten is immeasurable. If only this great publicity can outweigh the negative attitude so many Tulsans for the city in which they CHOOSE to live.

Beth, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:11:48 PM)

Ummm, Emily. I agree with the spirit of your post, but she wanted to bury the Tulsans, not the negativity. Same result, 'course.

Steve Biddlecombe, Romsey, England (6/13/2007 3:11:04 PM)

Oh to hell with the Politics people, you are mocking peoples efforts of 50 years ago & henceforth being disrespectful to their memories. I for one hope the car's survived & was devastated to see the water in the vault as have been so looking forward to the unearthing. This is history be it pristine or rusted.

Emily, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:08:20 PM)

I agree with Stacie. Bury the negativity! It sounds like there are so many people on here complaining about our city. Why not put that energy into revitalizing our city and making it to an even better place to live? This is a great event and the PR we have gotten is immeasurable. If only this great publicity can outweigh the negative attitude so many Tulsans for the city in which they CHOOSE to live.

Stacie, Tulsa (6/13/2007 3:00:14 PM)

Let's bury all the negative Tulsan's next time around! It's you negative people that keep us from moving forward within our great city. It was 50 years ago people!!! Lighten up and have some fun, I think it's a great event that we should all be excited about! Publicity is publicity so let's all be proud of our city!

Brett, Henryetta (6/13/2007 2:46:32 PM)

Give it a rest, people, I am going to enjoy this no matter how negative you try to make it or what condition that car is in.

Brad, Tulsa (6/13/2007 2:34:40 PM)

Nah, wouldn't be the same. Everybody knows politicians don't change.

Terry, Owasso (6/13/2007 2:32:22 PM)

Let's bury another car this year. Fill it with politicans first.

Jean, Tulsa (6/13/2007 2:28:14 PM)

Hey, lighten up! It's not like our sacred ancestors are buried here. There's a case of beer in that car, proof that no one intended it to be a serious excavation occasion.

Bob Lawrence, Claremore (6/13/2007 2:23:38 PM)

I was blessed to live in Tulsa when they buried this car. I am very thankful that I still remember this 50 years later. we can be very thankful that we live in a free country where we can worship God and bury a car and live long enough to see it retreived. We owe our freedom to God and our military personal who are paying the price daily that we can live in the freedom of the United States of America.

Zelda, Tulsa (6/13/2007 2:20:43 PM)

Apologies surely aren't necessary. Here's hoping the ole Belvedere stays together.

Ginny, Tulsa (6/13/2007 2:14:17 PM)

I agree with Jane from Bartlesville. There is so much negativity on here. Stop complaining and cracking jokes. It's not the worst thing in the world and what's happened to it is really not that funny. We should remember the purpose behind this and show a little respect and maturity. Some of us have family that contributed to the items in that car. Be a little more sensitive.

DavidS, Tulsa (6/13/2007 2:05:59 PM)

It looks like the concrete had no potholes, think we can at least figure out the recipe?????

My appologizes to all the visitors that were coming Friday to see them open up the vault. Some people are too selfish around here.............

Jason Collington, web editor, Tulsa (6/13/2007 1:59:13 PM)

Click the link at the top of the story to see the video showing the car underwater.

Greg, Tulsa (6/13/2007 1:56:24 PM)

What? There is a buried car in Tulsa?

Adam, Broken Arrow (6/13/2007 1:54:44 PM)

Hopefully that plastic bag did its job or this will be ugly.

Kevin, Tulsa (6/13/2007 1:37:46 PM)

This is gonna be good. The car is going to come out a few parts at a time. When they start to lift it the whole thing is gonna disentegrate! I don't think MAACO can save this one.

Hope they buried the case of beer in an airtight cooler! May be the only thing to survive.

KateM, Tulsa (6/13/2007 1:32:20 PM)

This will be a major test of the goo, I hadn't known about the goo, thanks for making the archived stories available, TW!

"The car will be covered with a special preservative provided by the Dobeckmun Co. of Cleveland, Ohio, a casing developed during World War II to protect military equipment. The encapsulating, the goo itself, and two company representative all were donated by Dobeckmun."

Brian, Sapulpa (6/13/2007 1:30:02 PM)

Well we have one more chance to get it right (if this doesn't pan out) We put a prototype prowler in a vault underground at Central Park, what is now Centinial park on Jan, 17 1998 when I worked for the City of Tulsa. Guess what no cosmoline and no rust inhibitors either.

Tim, Tulsa (6/13/2007 1:23:07 PM)

What an event this will be! I would rather a Chevy be in the hole then it could have been restored with other old dead Chevys.

Kay, Oklahoma (6/13/2007 1:05:05 PM)

If this automobile was a Classic 1957 Chevy then everyone would of cried...

Jim, Oklahoma City (6/13/2007 1:03:53 PM)

There is still hope the vacuum pack preserved the car, but even if it didn't it is the event that counts. Go have a good time and laugh at the rust or witness the world's best baggie commerical.

Mike, Tulsa (6/13/2007 12:56:10 PM)

Oh well, at least they didn't waste a '57 Chevy on the rust-urrection!

S.G. FITZGERALD, TULSA (6/13/2007 12:54:30 PM)

I can not believe thet didn'y know what a sump pump was when the car was buried.

Mike, Tulsa (6/13/2007 12:54:20 PM)

Oh well, at least they didn't waste a '57 Chevy on the rust-urrection!

Carol, tulsa (6/13/2007 12:47:49 PM)

Actually Mel, my computer has the problem...not me...never me me me me me.

Sue, Tulsa (6/13/2007 12:47:00 PM)

I'm still hoping for the best. It's still vacuum sealed in canvas and plastic. And we really weren't given a whole lot of information regarding the water situation. I checked KOTV website and there is nothing on there about this. Hopefully it isn't near as bad as we think. I'm still excited to see the outcome!

Jeff, (6/13/2007 12:42:12 PM)

Come on people be real. In the fifties do you actually think the technology back then would have allowed that car to make it 50 years? I think the way they wrapped it and what not was brilliant for that time period. I think the water in it and the years of being in the ground make it all that more interesting to see just what this will look like. I am excited to see this car regardless of the condition it might be in. This is history.

Carol, Tulsa (6/13/2007 12:31:19 PM)

And potentially toxic to boot.....perfect.

AES, (6/13/2007 12:24:09 PM)

I was in high school living in a smaller town close by when the car was burried. Although it is disappointing that it was not kept dry, just think of all the memories that it has created. As a classic car buff, even though it has some water damage does not mean that this car cannot be restored to its origional look! To me, it is still a miracle to have burried a car and have it gooed enough shape for it to be lifted "whole" from the vault. This is most incouraging and the car will be worth a fortune in the near future!

Jane, Bartlesville (6/13/2007 12:23:16 PM)

There are too many depressive postings here! It's only a buried car, done for amusement. Who knew in 1957 that it would become a national event, and how is it that this lucky publicity is cause now for all this naysaying? If anything, it's interesting that the car might be a rustbucket. To answer the last, those vaults are not waterproof, sorry.

Josh, Tulsa (6/13/2007 12:19:50 PM)

The city should have saved the money on this wet car project and spent it on something worth while, like more police officers, I would rather see more officers than an old rusted car be unearthed

Theata Thomas , Claremore, Ok. (6/13/2007 12:15:08 PM)

Makes a person wonder if these vaults that is recured to buired people is realy water tight.

Tulsan, (6/13/2007 12:14:42 PM)

Now half the country (and some people in other countries, apparently) will all be watching Tulsa remove a heap of rust and rot from the ground. Great publicity. For once, can't we do something good to attract attention?

Tulsan, (6/13/2007 12:11:26 PM)

Why am I not a bit surprised? I'm glad I wasn't interested in this in the first place. As a previous poster said, this is how things tend to pan out for Tulsa. Next time bury a time capsule let's think more realistically. Keeping a car untouched by the elements underground for 50 years is a bit of a pipe dream. Nobody is going to enjoy the rusty old mess when they get it out of the ground. Everyone will leave the ceremony wanting their money back.

Janice , Pryor (6/13/2007 12:11:23 PM)

I am curious to see the oucome of the Belvedere. We lived in Tulsa during this time, I don't remember anything about the time capsule but my brother does. I'm anxious to see if everything survived!

John, Dallas TX (6/13/2007 12:11:10 PM)

Look at the bright side, we now know the interior vinyl and plastics,will be supple and crack-free! There is still time to sneak in the matching Belvedere from the Kansas museum in it's place. Perhaps, somehow mysteriously, the trip from the vault to the exhibit hall will result in an extensive detour!!

Verna, Tulsa (6/13/2007 12:10:30 PM)

Quick! Somebody better get in there before Friday. Just put a big tent around it and replace it with the back-up Belvedere. Nobody'll know the dif.

Damon, (6/13/2007 12:06:07 PM)

That really sucks and is very sad to hear.

Bob Stafford, Montgomery, TX (6/13/2007 12:03:47 PM)

That is so sad, I was in high school in Tulsa when it was buried and wondered if I would still be around when it was uncovered. Well I am and was hoping all would be well.

A lot of memories associated with those days.

Beth, Tulsa (6/13/2007 11:55:55 AM)

Maybe the planning & execution weren't perfect, but that wasn't the point. Anytime you bury a car, you're wondering what will happen. Just a curiosity, that's all. No dreams involved here!

Corey M., Tulsa (6/13/2007 11:40:25 AM)

How appropriate: the effort speaks volumes about Tulsa 50 years ago and still today. Poor planning, poor execution and drowned-out dreams. The more things change, the more they stay the same. I sure am glad they didn't bury anything of real value.

steve, okc (6/13/2007 11:22:46 AM)

Shades of Geraldo and Al Capone's vault I suppose. As a native Tulsan, I hope all turns out well in the end - the international attention gained from the lead in has been tremendous. It would be a shame if the climax is disappointing.

Tosha, Utica,MS (6/13/2007 11:20:09 AM)

OH NO! This is so sad. I pray everything will work out for the best!

not all caps, tulsa (6/13/2007 11:19:54 AM)

umm Kaye...try not typing everything in all caps...no need to yell

KAYE, (6/13/2007 10:53:03 AM)

I WAS THERE WITH MY DAD I WAS 6 YEARS OLD MY DAD SAID ( I WILL NOT BE HERE ) WHEN THEY UNEARTH THIS CAR BUT YOU WILL AND IM SO GLAD I SHARED THIS WITH HIM. I HAVE NEVER FORGOT THOSE WORDS

Bob Stafford, Montgomery, TX (6/13/2007 10:37:13 AM)

That is so sad, I was in high school in Tulsa when it was buried and wondered if I would still be around when it was uncovered. Well I am and was hoping all would be well.

A lot of memories associated with those days.

Jeff, (6/13/2007 10:34:46 AM)

This sucks! Hope the vacuum sealing will save it from being a rust bucket.

Kevin, Tulsa (6/13/2007 10:31:03 AM)

HAHAHAHAHAHA That is gonna be funny! Shoulda burried a boat!